I saw this ad in the Pensacola airport last night and could think of no easier and clearer way to explain how abortion is jeopardizing our Social Security system, and, in fact, the security and welfare of our elderly population, in general. Click to enlarge…
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you watch. Euthanasia will become a solution. Which is ironic. Their generation killed my generation. Now my generation may return the favor. :-(
Sydney, if a person wants to off themselves, it’s their business. Their life doesn’t belong go God. Got it, idiot?
Now, forced euthanasia is wrong. But those who want to go should be permitted ago. Tens of thousands are assisted by physicians covertly now, so I suppose as long as there are laws against it, you guys will feel good. I’ve had 6 relatives assisted by physicians. It’s a little secret you morons can’t do anything about.
@Judy – but is it right? And we know that in places where assisted suicide is legal, the doctors and hospitals are now feeling free to perform assisted suicide even on patients that have never asked for it. Wesley Smith, an expert in this, reports on this status frequently.
I assume that from your post, that you think that God plays no part in human life, and therefor has no care in the particulars of human death. If God is the author of life, and cares about each human, what do you think He thinks of assisted suicide? Just wondering.
Judy says: Now, forced euthanasia is wrong.
Yes it is. And it has been found that legalized assisted suicide leads to “forced” euthanasia.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285423/Half-Belgiums-euthanasia-nurses-admit-killing-consent.html
Judy, just so you know, small minds criticize people. Intelligent minds criticize ideas. She never said anything about assisted suicide, but rather euthanasia, which is different. And, as you admitted, is bad because it is coerced.
So move along, little troll.
When you use words like “idiot” and “morons” you come off looking quite childish and below average intelligence.
Judy: “Sydney, if a person wants to off themselves, it’s their business. Their life doesn’t belong go God. Got it, idiot?”
Why do you think their life belongs to them? Other than cultural assumptions, that is. Can you defend the idea that a person’s life is their own? How much of that person’s life? Can a person be compelled by others to give something of themselves for others?
The naive idea that radical autonomy defines the human experience doesn’t survive long once scratched.
She put in her two cents over on the thread about the Aurora PP, too.
She’s a BUSY little troll.
And no one would be more deserving of the fruits of abortion than my generation, the “Me Generation”.
We allowed abortion to become the law of the land, we kicked God out of schools, yes and we should reap what we have sown.
In this case, ecomomic devastation. I can’t say we were not warned. It remains to be seen if the millennials will also buy into the lie of abortion and its destructive consequences.
It’s not “assisted” anything if the patient doesn’t know about it, then it’s just plain murder for convenience. Gee, a lot like abortion.
Many people experience depression when they are ill, but depression is TREATABLE. It is not healthy to want to kill yourself. Many of the elderly and infirm that I meet WANT TO LIVE. They realize they can’t try out for the olympics any more, but their lives have quality. Euthenasia is just a way to bully the weak and infirm by telling them they should die so as not to burden their families. Kind of like abortion.
No civilized society murders its way to prosperity. It’s a lie that death will solve your problems. Troll or no troll, ”assisted suicide” is always murder because wanting to kill oneself is always a symptom of pathology or depression. Always. Choose life.
I will continue to point out the dishonesty (or stupidity) of citing the putative total number of abortions as the sum of “lost” taxpaying citizens and then maintaining, as many in the movement do, that legal abortion causes people to engage in sexually risky behavior that leads to unwanted conceptions which would otherwise have not occurred. If that reasoning holds up, most of the ’55 million’ aborted fetuses would never have existed in the first place, absent the legalization of abortion.
“The abortion boom is also behind the crisis in Social Security and Medicare. In 1940, we had 145 people in the workforce for every person on Social Security. That’s when it looked like a great idea! By 1952, the ratio had dropped to 16 to 1. It is now 3 to 1. In less than 20 years, it will be only 2 to 1. That’s when the government Ponzi scheme will completely collapse. ”
http://www.movementforabetteramerica.org/economicimpact.html
Judy said: Sydney, if a person wants to off themselves, it’s their business. Their life doesn’t belong go God. Got it, idiot?
Actually what one person does can and often does affect others. It may not be noticeable, but there is a ripple effect. If we turn around and say “oh we don’t care, that’s THEIR business” then we’re not helping solve a potential problem, we’re giving permission for it to continue.
Suicide is a sad thing. Whether the person is old, young, rich, or poor, healthy or sick. I’ve seen what it does to the people around them.
As for calling Sydney an idiot, are you new to this blog? Sydney is NOT an idiot. A true idiot would not express their position as clearly and intelligently as she does.
Judy said: Tens of thousands are assisted by physicians covertly now, so I suppose as long as there are laws against it, you guys will feel good.
This just plain makes me sad. Whether legal or illegal assisted or willful suicide is NOT something I’d be happy about.
I’ve had 6 relatives assisted by physicians. It’s a little secret you morons can’t do anything about.
I can’t believe you’d BRAG about relatives’ death.
By the way, NOW we know about it because you told us.
Hi Judy,
I am a moderator here. I deleted your comments.
Please read over the commenting Do’s and Don’ts and try again.
I am sure you can get your point across without resorting to name calling.
Joan, you must have been your math teachers sleeper.
Joan, do you have any idea what asymtotes, exponents or logarithms are? Look them up.
Aborting 55 million children has actually resulted in about a 100 to 150 million loss in population.
Oh, and I think, following your denouncement of prolife logic, that those theoretical lossess would have actually ended up eventually as legitimate births as people repented of their evil ways but still continued to have sex, in marriage of course. Check and Mate.
“Aborting 55 million children has actually resulted in about a 100 to 150 million loss in population.”
Thank you, thank you for affirming that the pro-life movement views women as breeders whose primary purpose is to keep social security solvent. And BTW, not all the aborted “babies” would be taxpaying members of society. Some would be disabled, some would be in jail, and some would be dead. But yeah, we women are just happy incubators for future contributors to social security.
Amanda Marcotte has a great article about how, in pro-life world, women are just “easy bake ovens” whose humanity is totally negated in favor of the fetus.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/08/26/todd-akin-is-just-tip-iceberg
Again, thanks for validating that.
Joan’s right. The other point I must constantly make when this issue comes up is that people generally aren’t having fewer children because of abortion, but they hare having them later in life. For me, for example, I probably would have had two kids whether there was legal abortion or not.
CC sez: “some would be disabled, some would be in jail, and some would be dead.”
Thanks! can you tell us more about how you value a human life?
“Disabled” = should have been aborted.
In jail = should have been aborted.
Dies before the median age of death = should have been aborted.
Some would be surgeons. Some would be teachers. Some would be astronauts. Some would be business owners. Some would even show mercy to people who would consider them “medical waste” or “human weeds.”
Since many of our pro-abortion commenters have revealed a family history of mental illness, I have to ask myself, just how many people in the abortion industry also have a family history of mental illness? Pessimism, cynicism, narcissism, self-loathing, these are all hallmarks of people who believe that other human beings are “better off dead.” It’s about time to stop letting the inmates rule the asylum.
“Thank you, thank you for affirming that the pro-life movement views women as breeders whose primary purpose is to keep social security solvent.”
Who is saying that? No, you’re twisting that. What we are saying is that the evil of abortion has devastating consequences that can be measured in physical terms, one of which is the lost economies of scale. The spiritual consequences are incalculable.
The inferrence of the implied metaphor then is that if the visible physical devastation is measureable, one cannot even measure the incalculable spriritual consequences.
It’s like this. God gives us a flower and we think isn’t that beautiful. Hopefully, we can put our mids around a flower and infer a Creator. Now if we can’t infer a Creator from that, he gives us the Universe with the mind numbing realization that God, the Supreme Being is unmeasurable, incalculable, unfathomable and we are left to fall on our knees begging for mercy.
Do you think you can grasp that?
If you tried for a moment, opened your mind, you just might be able to realize what the prolife movement is about which is ultimately about respect for the Creator of the Universe.
CC, if my mother had aborted me my husband would be without his best friend and lover. My two sons wouldn’t exist. My family and friends who know me, love me and have laughed and cried with me would not have all those wonderful memories we’ve made together.
The fact that my mother didn’t abort me doesn’t mean she is merely a “breeder’. How do you get that from what we said? The fact that millions of people are missing that would have loved and been loved makes women “breeders”?
I just don’t understand your absolute disdain and hatred for the mother/child relationship.
Eh, I missed Judy’s comment did I? I must have touched a nerve. Assisted suicide is sad Judy. Euthanasia has an element of forced death to it and that is horrifying. I think anytime someone thinks death solves a problem (abortion, suicide, euthanasia, murder) that that is a sad thing. I think human life is precious. I think your life is precious Judy. And the God who you disdain loves you very very much even if you will not acknowledge Him.
CC,
My mother had several of her own children and adopted others. NONE of us viewed her as a breeder. We view her as a giving, loving, generous, kind, grace-filled woman, wife, mother, and grandmother. She is one of my main role models of the type of person I want to be. She has epitomized in my views what it means to be a Catholic Christian woman–to care for one’s neighbor, to love God with all one’s heart, and to live in a Christ-like Manner. I can only hope and wish and pray that others will live their lives that way. She is, in my opinion, a saint in the making–and I’m not the only one who thinks that–there are those who are NOT related to me who have said “Your mother is a wonderful woman! She’s so caring. She’s a saint!” I just smile and say “Thank you, I agree with you! I’m blessed she’s my mom. God knew what He was doing when He made her my mom.”
Now, I realize not everyone believes in God, but my family does and several of our friends do, so that’s why we say those things.
I’ve never in my entire life viewed a woman as simply a “breeder” or an “incubator”. I reserve the term “breeder” for those who work with horses or other animals to have a certain male and a certain female procreate. As for “incubator” that makes me think of chickens rather than human females or even pregnant human females.
When I see a pregnant woman I see a mother. Not a ”breeder” or an “incubator”. A HUMAN MOTHER. I see someone who’s willing to go through the uncertainities that is parenthood and life in general for the sake of her unborn baby–whether she keeps the child or puts said child up for adoption.
When I see someone saying “I had an abortion and I don’t regret it.” I see a person who’s been sadly seduced by society’s idea that we shouldn’t have to take responsibility for anything in our lives whether it is or is not our faults. A view that takes the self-LESS part out of love.
No, pregnancy isn’t easy. There are difficult situations, and I know that. I have experienced some of those difficulties (and I expect I’ll experience more because life is not always easy) however, good things can and often do come out of bad situations or difficult ones. I’ve seen it happen. Miracles DO happen (whether you believe God is the author of them or not, I’ve seen them first-hand and I’ve read about them, too and I’ve seen them in my friends’ and family’s lives as well).
Don’t throw out the baby just because the bath water is soiled.