From “safe, legal and rare” to an abortion free-for-all
Whatever happened to keeping abortion “safe, legal, and rare”? Those goals just don’t fit the needs of the abortion industry anymore.
Last night the abortion crowd, or perhaps I should say “mob”… managed to filibuster a [Texas] bill which would help regulate abortions….
Why did a senator oppose the bill with hours of filibustering? Why did an unruly mob keep the senate from doing its job after the filibuster ended? Abortion supporters couldn’t allow this bill to pass because it made abortions safer. Yup. Safer.
The bill in question would require all abortion providers to upgrade their facilities because under this bill abortion clinics would be considered surgical centers. Only five of the forty-two abortion providers in Texas offer this level of care….
It seems to me that proponents of abortion have talked themselves into a corner. On the one hand, we have to leave these clinics open because we can’t risk that anyone would go to a back alley for an abortion. This is an issue of women’s health. On the other hand, abortion isn’t really risky, so we don’t need the added protections in place. Which is it? Risky or not?
… How’s this for a new motto: “Cheap, legal, and ubiquitous”?
~ Collin Garbarino, First Things, June 26
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
we have to leave these clinics open because we can’t risk that anyone would go to a back alley for an abortion. This is an issue of women’s health. On the other hand, abortion isn’t really risky, so we don’t need the added protections in place. Which is it? Risky or not? – cute. What is it about a clinic with qualified staff being of far less risk than a back alley abortion conducted by who knows that Collin doesn’t understand.
And as we all know – hence the large protest – the intent of the bill isn’t to make abortion safer for women. Its intent is to reduce and restrict access.
How many times does a person need to read articles on here about women dying in abortions, less than ideal conditions, people ignoring the health issues at various abortion locations before one realizes that something has to be done. If putting restrictions on abortions means people pay better attention to what they’re doing, and take better care of the women in question, then I don’t see what the pro-choicers/pro-aborts are complaining about.
If it was a regular hospital/surgical center or a pro-life place, pro-choicers/pro-aborts would cry foul if they read the things we’ve read on here about some of the conditions existing in these places. It’s time for everyone to see what’s going on.
I would think pro-choicers/pro-aborts would WANT high standards at these clinics to ensure safe environments for the women.
So sad. Most of these women aren’t educated on how abortion came to be. They were born and it was legal so they are clueless. They think its a basic right and solution.
This is why it’s not at all uncommon to meet women having multiple abortions and most of the rest were on birth control …birth control ..controlling birth from happening . God help our nation and other countries who kill children as a solution. I’m so sad about this.
Now that a second special session has been called, I really, really hope better security measures are taken this time. Mob rule is never a healthy thing.
Honestly, politics aside, I’m quite worried about safety at this point. Who’s to say a full-scale riot will not break out this time? They’re already riled up, and probably not to happy that they were not able to stop the bill permanently.
Where was security while this was going on??
There are rules of decorum for a reason.
They know they have lost if they are stooping to this.
I haven’t watched Wendy Davis’s filibuster, but I have read that she married at 18, gave birth to a daughter at 19, divorced shortly thereafter and then went on to succeed at Harvard Law School.
Common sense tells me that she should be speaking for our side. She was a young, single mother who also obtained a difficult college degree and became successful (in the eyes of the world) while raising a child.
Is Wendy saying it was all just too hard and that she should have aborted her daughter instead?
“The bill in question would require all abortion providers to upgrade their facilities because under this bill abortion clinics would be considered surgical centers.”
Don’t these facilities offer “surgical” abortions? Isn’t this the term they use when an abortion requires more than the Pill they give you?
So they want to keep on offering “surgical abortions” but they are refusing a law that would call and require them to be such that.
I don’t get it.
And as we all know – hence the large protest – the intent of the bill isn’t to make abortion safer for women. Its intent is to reduce and restrict access.
So?
Just a thought, Since Democrats are so inclined to make abortion “Safe, Legal, and Rare”, was there ever a bill that they proposed to make the abortion safe? It’s always the republicans doing this. Most of the time the democrats oppose any law that would make abortion what they claim. The only law they support is one that makes it “legal”.
And as we all know – hence the large protest – the intent of the bill isn’t to make abortion safer for women. Its intent is to reduce and restrict access.
And in the process of reducing and restricting access, more women and children will remain safe. Duh.
Reality, why do you support inflicting pain on innocent babies?
Denise, is crazy speculation about hypothetical events in the pasts of public figures really necessary?
Ugh, I may or may not have just broken my rule about feeding trolls. Do we consider Denise a troll at this point?
let’s talk medical-RESTRICTIONS, eh Reality – #1 – presence of depression … #2 consent of procedure only if signed by parents … ‘choice’ decision for underage suspect … #3 elimination of sex-selection and fetal-reduction as medically ‘necessary’ procedures (because these are usually ‘medically-induced’ situations in the first place). IS ABORTION A MEDICAL PROCEDURE THAT IS WITHIN WHAT IS MEDICAL-PRACTICE?
Only people feel pain, right Reality? Unwanted babies aren’t people, right, so who cares?
JDC
I do.
“I do.”
O.k., I’ll follow your lead on this one. Sorry about feeding the troll.
“And in the process of reducing and restricting access, more women and children will remain safe.” – yeah, because back alleys and illegal clinics are so much safer. Duh.
The admitting privileges requirement as it stands is a TRAP restriction John. If the intent was to maker women safer then they would also be addressing some of the anomolous blockages to doctors gaining them.
A person could go into cardiac arrest while having a tooth pulled, and you don’t see dentists sending a mob to disrupt the democratic process.
See, abortionistas want it both ways: total freedom to destroy without any regulation PLUS the respect and prestige that doctors and nurses enjoy. Too bad. Abortion is about murder. Abortionists fill the role of hitman and their crimes are an abomination and insult to real doctors everywhere. In fact, let’s face it, those politicians who want anyone with a pulse to be able to perform abortions have it half right: abortionists aren’t real doctors anyway.
strange response Reality because in that post I pointed out only the standard medical restrictions imposed on all medical situations by all doctors.
most medical doctors are classically-trained scientists and as such KNOW that a human fetus AFTER birth is the same being before birth. Even the doctors who are non-religious are doctors with the intent of promoting ALL life (not only that life which is wanted/desired).
Has it ever ocurred to you that the whole aspect of the abortion procedures are so abhorent to those in the medical profession that they will not permit it in most hospitals and they will often shun abortion providers BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY THAT ABORTION KILLS A YOUNG HUMAN.
I was just clarifying the type of restrictions I was talking about in my original comment John.
“as such KNOW that a human fetus AFTER birth is the same being before birth” – well, kinda.
Has it ever occurred to you that more and more hospitals are being run under the auspices of catholic institutions. All sorts of restrictions and discriminations.
If I was a young doctor would I enter a field which has a low profile or one where I am likely to get numerous threats and the chances of one of those threats being carried out is high. No wonder others don’t stand too close.
yeah, because back alleys and illegal clinics are so much safer. Duh.
Yeah, because if someone wants to hurt themselves and kill someone else, they can do it illegally in the dark back alley and leave me out of it. I don’t support people hurting themselves and killing others.
Big bucket of Duh.
Women seeking an abortion aren’t seeking to hurt themselves. They are more likely to be hurt if abortion clinics are unavailable. Possibly more likely to want to hurt themselves too.
Truckload of Duh :-)
What?! Reality, look below the surface. More and more hospitals are coming under private corporate ownership while keeping their old “St. Elsewhere” names. Which reminds me of the scene in Idiocracy where you see the outside of the hospital and it reads “St. God’s”. LOL!!
But seriously, I’m very pleased that doctors avoid abortion because of the stigma. Stigma is free and it works. ;>) !!
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020875885_catholichealthxml.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/us/hospital-mergers-in-northwest-raise-issue-of-abortion-barriers.html?pagewanted=all
Womens reproductive rights and choices, the treatment of gays and their families and end of life decisions subject to religious rather than medical decisions.
“Stigma is free and it works. ;>) !!” – careful what you wish for…..
And you support the threats and worse too do you?
Possibly more likely to want to hurt themselves too.
If the law doesn’t protect me and legally allow me to off my ex-husband, I’m going to want to hurt myself and possibly commit suicide. Waaaaaa. And then it will all be Reality’s fault. Waaaaaaaa,
Abortion – it’s all about whining control – and killing innocent humans.
“And then it will all be Reality’s fault” – you have no idea where I might stand in relation to that issue or which politicians I may back according to what their policy regarding it is.
Abortion – it’s all about keeping control out of the hands of the whining patriarchy – and protecting womens freedoms.
Where did they bus all these people in from? they are Planned Parenthood employees? I don’t understand.
“In fact, let’s face it, those politicians who want anyone with a pulse to be able to perform abortions have it half right: abortionists aren’t real doctors anyway.”
At least until they defect and join your movement. Then suddenly they are experts in their field and everything they have to say about abortion is unassailable and will be quoted and requoted like the medical equivalent of the Gospel.
Joan as a nurse for 26 years I know plenty of doctors and nurses who aren’t jumping on the abortion bandwagon. In fact I was chatting with a retired physician friend of mine who SAID. ” Any doctor who performs an abortion doesn’t deserve the title.”
That doctor is retired from the Cleveland Clinic….one of the best hospitals in the world
And reality I’m saying this to you one last time…. We’ve discussed the deaths of at least 3 women who have died in SAFE abortion clinics…What have you to say about Carhart? I pitched you an easy ? Now please answer. I went to a free for all site where many people were not sympathetic to Jennifer Morbellie at all..just read a few comments and had to go. Many said shed made a really stupid choice so she deserved to die. Others called her too snobby to have a child with a defect. So is that how you feel too reality ? Oh well..as others said. After all she was with a qualified abortionist. And to add there were also others expressing remorse for Jennifer and Madison. Not a pro life blog.
But reality how do you feel about a woman dying at the hands of an abortionist?
What certain people don’t seem to understand is the difference between an illegal and legal abortion clinic today is the ‘il’. In *reality* the same clinics who did illegal abortions at Roe V Wade -1 did legal abortions at Roe V Wade +1. The same abortion clinics in Texas that are doing ‘legal’ abortions today would be the, according to the pro-aborts, dangerous illegal abortion clinics women would be forced to seek out if such a law passed. Without enforced regulations there is NO difference between legal and illegal. Both are held to the same ‘standards’ (none), both hold the same risks, the same untrained, incompetent staff, the same complete disregard to women’s health, basic hygene, and medical procedures and ethics. If you don’t want dangerous ‘illegal’ abortion clinics preying on women, if you don’t want desperate women seeking out shady faux-doctors who will leave them bleeding on a dirty sheet, then the *only* way to accomplish that is to strictly regulate, ruetinely and staunchly enforce, and regulalry update pactices and policies to follow new medical advances. Then and only then will women be able to express this ever-so-important ‘right’ to abortion safely and without risk of being preyed upon by ‘illegal’ and back-alley abortionists. Everytime pro-aborts stand against strict regulations and staunch enforcement of those regulations they condemn women to abortionists whose only concievable difference between ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ are two letters haphazardly slapped onto a form somewhere.