Kos: Pro-lifers elected thx in part to few happy abortions in media
by Kelli
Contrary to what we see in the movies and television shows, plenty of women have abortions, and many of those do so without guilt or regret…. My own experience, at any rate, supports that. First, there was my grandmother. She told me that after she had my mother, her fourth child, she was fed up with having children. So when she got pregnant the fifth time, she had an abortion. The tone in her voice was matter-of-fact….
Then there was the night a woman and I were overwhelmed by a great passion. We knew what had to be done. There was just one problem…. I was pretty sure there were no condoms in my apartment. And since her husband had had a vasectomy, she was unprepared as well. While she got undressed, I rummaged around in drawers and cabinets in the vain hope of finding a condom from long ago, but finally she said, “To hell with it, John. If I get pregnant, I’ll just get an abortion.” That sounded good to me, so I quit looking. “They haven’t blown up all the abortion clinics, have they?” she asked, jokingly, as we prepared to throw caution to the winds.
Those are my anecdotes, for what they are worth…. But with the exception of Fast Times at Ridgemont High, such women are nowhere to be found in the movies, except perhaps as very minor characters…. Instead, the movies have promoted the notion that the ideal thing for a pregnant woman to do is have the baby. If she considers an abortion, it is proper, almost obligatory, for her to agonize over it; and if she has the abortion, she will invariably be filled with regrets.
This unrelenting subliminal message from movies and television… may well have some influence at the margins, and enough so to elect a few extra pro-life conservatives here and there, perhaps just enough to make the difference…. At most, we can keep watching the movies and television shows, waiting for the day when women on the screen start having abortions, and doing so without misgivings or regrets. Then we will know that the pro-choice forces have finally gotten the upper hand.
~ disinterested spectator, lamenting that so few abortions are portrayed positively by Hollywood, The Daily Kos, December 15
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Both him and the woman in his little story sound like jerks.. Sleeping with a married woman secure in the knowledge you can just abort afterward? Ugh.
Anyway. Im glad there’s a lack of positive portrayals of abortions in media. And even when they try for a non-agonizing decision like in Grey’s Anatomy, it still ends up sad.
This loathsome individual is actually right. I’ve often wondered why not only is abortion not portrayed in all the “surprise” pregnancies we see on TV, it is never even mentioned. It is assumed that the actor will have the baby, even though often said actor is a vocal proponent of abortion. I’m happy about this hypocrisy because it does set a norm of behavior, but it is hypocrisy nonetheless.
As appalling as the “romance” story is, the thought that someone’s grandmother would tell him that she had aborted his aunt/uncle is worse. I have four babies in heaven and I grieved for every one of them, from the very early miscarriages, through the ruptured tubal pregnancy, to the stillbirth. But I suppose, since I desperately wanted them they were “babies,” whereas if I didn’t they were just “fetuses.”
Yep here we go again with the entire..Is The Woman A Victim of Abortion? Some are and some are not. And if all women are victims of abortion then they dont need Christs forgiveness. Sorry but ive met too many women who made that choice on their own free will. I wont change my position on the way I feel.
While standing in front of the Surgi Center we ( pro lifers ) met a pregnant 14 year old girl. Her parents wanted her to abort and she said NO WAY! She found a woman who took her into her home and the woman was helping her so that she could have her baby. A 14 year old knew abortion was murder so she fought for the life of her baby.
Wow, this post is a real doozy. First of all, this guy is a real CFH (Creep From Hell). I wonder how many abortions he has paid for. And his partner was no prize, either.
“To hell with it, John. If I get pregnant, I’ll just get an abortion.” That sounded good to me, so I quit looking. “They haven’t blown up all the abortion clinics, have they?” she asked, jokingly, as we prepared to throw caution to the winds.
Gee, I thought abortion was something women do not take lightly . . . but what do you expect from The Daily Kooks?
I sense the hard core pro-aborts are agonizing that they don’t dictate the cultural narative. They don’t get to decide what is portrayed, and what the rest of us see and hear. If they had their way, we would get nothing but hard core pro-abort propaganda day in and say out, with all other voices totally silenced. These folks aren’t much into free speech and free expression, at least not when it comes from people they disagree with.
“may well have some influence at the margins, and enough so to elect a few extra pro-life conservatives here and there, perhaps just enough to make the difference.”
One positive out of this entire diatribe, ha. This guy knows pro-aborts are in trouble..
Yeah they sound like they desreve each other.
I never consiidered DAily Kos a worthwhile read since this dude is so far left its not even funny. Will this op-ed piece Kos posted help “his” cause remains questionable as I don’t think Hollywood wil take that writer up on his “concern.”
Here’s for once Hollywood is not hollyweird.
Funny how pro-aborts always want to “control their body” AFTER they’re pregnant but never before.
Reminds me of the words from Hard Truth “Conceived in lust to their own ruin…” How horrendously selfish mankind is.
Still waiting on the whole HAPPY ABORTION movement to get rolling.
Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn already!! ::drums fingers::
So let’s not make it a thread on whether women are victims or not. mmmmmmmmkay?
Totally disagree with you Heather. ALL women are victims of the industry.(whether you think they are or not) The industry kills for profit. Women and little girls are PREYED upon. Victim or not……..we ALL need the salvation of Jesus Christ. ALL women who abort are spiritually wounded. An abortion keeps them from Jesus. Just what satan wants.
But we have gone down that thread before. :)
This guy is a pig and I’m not sure why his opinion matters at all….apparently his grandmother had no moral center either so what can we expect.
woops! I just broke the rules…I criticized people not ideas….well allow me to correct that….I believe the problem with this gentlemen’s opinion is the lack of moral center displayed by himself and his grandmother. Their outlook might be decidedly different if morals were brought into the discussion along with the favorable attributes of a fully functioning conscience. Will that do? Now I’m going to go wash out my mind from the filth, adultery, lack of compassion and murder.
“woops! I just broke the rules…I criticized people not ideas”
No, those rules actually only apply to commenters. Public figures, writers and what not are criticized all the time.
Jana, the only ones you need apologize to are pigs for comparing them to this John person…
Reminds me of “bro choice”. Guys like this just prove our point that abortion allows men to behave irresponsibly and to use women as sexual playthings.
And there is something very wrong with these 2 if talking about an abortion and bombing clinics didn’t completely kill whatever passion they were feeling. Blech.
“Guys like this just prove our point that abortion allows men to behave irresponsibly and to use women as sexual playthings.”
Sounds like they are both equal opportunity users to me.
“Jana, the only ones you need apologize to are pigs for comparing them to this John person…”
Lol exactly, what did pigs ever do? Pigs are awesome and intelligent and it’s mean that bad humans get called pigs.
Can we call him a termite?
“Can we call him a termite?”
Not fair to termites, my friend.
I’ve always hated the fact that “Fast Times…” seems to be only known for all the goofy stuff in it and the abortion seems mostly ignored. I’ve even stopped bringing up the fact that “Clueless*” is one of my favorite movies because when I do, people tend to mention “Fast Times….”
*unless I’m referring to Stacey Dash, though “Clueless” was one of my favorites even before I knew much about her personally.
What about pond scum, JDC? It has no feelings to hurt because its not alive.
How disrespectful to people who agonize over their abortion decision and/or come to regret it. He shows a lack of empathy especially to the unborn child.
PS The vain condom from long ago would have probably deteriorated to the point that it would not have done you much good anyway.
“What about pond scum, JDC? It has no feelings to hurt because its not alive.”
Okay, sure.
I thought pro choicers were seriously angered about bombing of abortion clinics. I guess they found it okay to joke with each other. But dont ever be pro life and joke about it.
Gotta love the double standard!! Oh if I get pregnant I will just have an abortion. Odd my friend kinda said the same thing. And she had an abortion ….we were former friends but weve now kissed and made up so to speak.
“ALL women who abort are spiritually wounded.”
Ok, but people who commit ANY sin are spiritually wounded usually before they commit the sin and definitely after. That doesn’t say anything about the varying degrees of culpability they have.
I would hope more kids today would be finding out what abortion really is far younger than I did. (I think I was about 12)
Because Hollywood loves a happy ending, that’s why! But more sinister, it brings the topic into the light of day, which means people have to talk about it with co-workers, and I can’t see pre-production offices passing a script around with notes on how Julia Roberts is supposed to smile after letting a “Doctor” enter her body in that way. See? Kinda makes one feel… unhappy. And also because the hero must die. If the fetus died, the fetus would have to be the hero… or something.
CT I agree with you. I just couldnt give you a thumb up.
….my phone wont let me. Its just the way I look at it. Its my opinion and if others have a different POV then fine. I have my own and it will remain that way.
The varying degrees of culpability is NOT for me to say. And that is not my argument. It is yours. You are free to determine culpability of post abortive women. Go ahead. While post abortive women like myself listen to stories that will rip your heart out, hold these women in our arms as they sob for hours and lead them from the darkness of the spiritual bondage of abortion into the light.
http://rachelsvineyard.org
The Holy Spirit convicts. Not I.
Carla not trying to condem but sometimes pro lifers will have to agree to disagree. I held my friend Margret in my arms while she sobbed about her abortion 10 years ago. Ive had others tell me they would NEVER repeat the act. Ive also met women who do not seem fazed by it. Are those women suffering? Idk. Its between them and God.
And Carla….i do love you. Dont forget Ive chemically aborted. I am no better or different. Many times on the sidewalk Ive seen women holding up the I Regret My Abortion signs….many women would come up and snicker and lol “You do? Well I sure dont!” Im just saying how do we REALLY know how they feel?
Just like the man who murdered his wife and kids on Lock Up. He said he wasnt sorry and he would do it again. Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy wasnt sorry. His final words before they executed him? ” KISS MY BACKSIDE!” I cleaned that up. Sorry? Nope. You would have to take each abortion case by case.
So, is all abortion bad or is the aborting of white Christian babies bad, and the rest is culling the herd?
How could a fetus have a religion?
Not all of us are white or Christian, and all of us want to protect all babies, regardless of race or religion. That’s all the time I’ll give your trolling lol.