Clinic aborts mainly black babies but escort says pro-lifers racist
by Kelli
[Protestors] literally just go up to every car that comes up the street. They automatically assume that every African American driver is coming to the clinic…. They say some of the most disgusting, degrading and racist comments to them about killing the dream, killing the next Barack Obama, the next Martin Luther King.
~ Clinic escort Michelle Colon, who “has worked for 10 years at Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the last abortion clinic in Mississippi, where most clients are African American and most anti-abortion protestors… are white,” as quoted by The Huffington Post, February 21
[Screenshot via HuffPostLive]
Feb.25, 2014 1:00 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
How does she know what the “protesters” assume or say all the time? She is not in their heads, and I doubt she is a party to every conversation. How is it racist to want Black babies to live and thrive?
Well I’m sure she’s heard a lot of convos. I bet she’s exaggerating the frequency though, as people tend to do. I don’t doubt she’s heard racist comments though, I’ve heard plenty in all different situations directed toward black people in particular but all minorities in general.
It’s definitely not racist to want black babies to live and thrive. What makes me uncomfortable is when people make racially specific and charged comments to black women where they wouldn’t make them to white women. I don’t know if it’s racist so much as it’s blind. Telling some woman she might be aborting the next MLK Jr just seems ineffective. Is that showing her support and another option? Don’t think so, in my opinion. Just seems like it’s shaming her. Specifically using her racial makeup to shame her. Plus it’s a bad argument no matter what public figure you use.
Oh bull lady. I have 2 words for you…black genocide!
I also say BS!!
Sidewalk counseling is frustrating. The counselor has less than five seconds to engage the woman’s attention and invite her into conversation. Sometimes it is effective to say some version of, “This child could become another great Black hero.” It takes the woman out of herself for a moment and let’s her see the humanity of her child in a bright future. It might be enough to start a conversation in which we can offer real help to the woman.
If the wicked escort is telling the truth — that most of the pro-lifers at a black-exploitation abortuary in Mississippi are white — then that shows great progress in race relation in the South. But it mostly a great sadness that Black leaders aren’t participating in protecting their most vulnerable members.
I’m hoping that escort-lady is just sick and twisted in the head, and that there is little truth to this.
So, if a black person tells another black person that by aborting an inordinate amount of black children is “killing the dream,” would that be racist? Or is it just racist because a white person says it?
I think I must have sold my liberal sensitivities book at my last garage sale, so I can’t remember.
All those WHITE RACIST protestors!!! What bigots they are!!! They should all be charged with WHITE PRIVILEGE and thrown out from the US…. How dare they tell all these black women that their child could be a great black-American one day!!! This breaks my heart.
For ten years, she has been offering women help to only destroy their children. For ten years, could she count the lives lost on her watch?
After ten years, her biggest outrage are the protesters, not what’s going on inside the building.
I hope she finds healing in her heart.
“I think I must have sold my liberal sensitivities book at my last garage sale, so I can’t remember.”
LOL Kel. I burned mine. :)
Always have loved the line….what if weve aborted the cure for cancer.
Why, oh why must everything always become about race?
DLPL: “Is that showing her support and another option? Don’t think so, in my opinion. Just seems like it’s shaming her. Specifically using her racial makeup to shame her. Plus it’s a bad argument no matter what public figure you use.”
I disagree. If someone had told me that my wife’s pregnancy could result in Polish greatness born in America that could possibly glorify his parents’ and his/her heritage, I would not take it as shaming but as an elevation of my status. Someone cares about Polish people in America, I am so honored and grateful, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Twisting these words as somehow racist/bigoted, as illustrated in the above quote, only keeps the race card alive for those who are intent on racially-charging everything. The type of outlook as illustrated in the quote above only, at the end, patronizes the current status of black-Americans and nothing more.
“I disagree. If someone had told me that my wife’s pregnancy could result in Polish greatness born in America that could possibly glorify his parents’ and his/her heritage, I would not take it as shaming but as an elevation of my status. Someone cares about Polish people in America, I am so honored and grateful, thank you from the bottom of my heart. “
I didn’t say it was racist. I still think it’s a poor argument. Seems to imply that children (of any race) are only worthwhile if they do something successful later in life. Kids more likely to be a plumber or whatever than a leader, but that shouldn’t mean that he/she is any less valuable.
And then it’s fairly easily countered with “well the baby could be the next Ted Bundy!” or something like that. Which is true. But it still doesn’t mean the baby should be killed preemptively just in case. I just think the whole thing focuses the attention to the extrinsic worth of a human fetus (which is a pro-abort way of thinking) instead of the intrinsic worth of a human anybody (the pro-life way of thinking).
I have to agree with heather, Kel, Del and Thomas R. you are appealing to the humanity and potential greatness of your unborn baby and your potential legacy, which actually is a compliment. Makes me think of Ryan Bomberger of Radiance Foundation who was the product of a rape of his white mother by a black man. He has become a star and an activist in the pro-life movement. If you have not already check out his website http://www.toomanyaborted.com.
It’s illogical and easily countered, I can’t stand it! :)
If people are not as weird as I am maybe they would see it as a good argument, but it just seems so easily defeated. And I just think it focuses on the wrong thing. It shouldn’t matter the “potential” of the baby, which side uses “potential” all the time? It’s usually not us. The baby in her/his present form is valuable, which the statement completely misses. Again, it’s just focusing on what a fetus could be someday instead of focusing on what a fetus is. Which seems to validate pro-abort thinking of people only being worthwhile once they are doing something successful.
You are, it seems much more “advanced” than the rest of us Jack :)
What is the reason a woman seeks to abort. In my opinion it is because she does not see any potential in the pregnancy and beyond. Concrete examples of the baby’s humanity and potential (representing a race even) seem very appropriate. Sidewalk counselors can certainly discuss the intrinsic value of live but the woman does not see it at that moment and most likely this argument if initially presented, will be lost on her. I disagree that this line of argument validates pro-abort ideology. This is simply appealing on a concrete level to a higher purpose…
“You are, it seems much more “advanced” than the rest of us Jack ”
It appears I’m pretty pedantic comparatively.
“Concrete examples of the baby’s humanity and potential (representing a race even) seem very appropriate. ”
I can see the point but I really think that it reinforces the “potential” arguments that pro-aborts use. That’s a child someone is pregnant with, the child may have potential but s/he isn’t a potential child. Maybe I’m just overthinking it.
I do think the best “protest” I’ve seen was the picture of an ultrasound baby sucking his/her thumb and the message “Your baby is already a baby” or something along those lines. That seems to me to be concretely enforcing the humanity of the baby as s/he is right now, rather than at some point in the future.
Heather: I also say BS!!
Careful, Heather…. Before you know it, you’ll be talking about patients’ body parts with other nurses and using slang…. : P
Hi Jack how are you and your family? I hope and pray that the new job and location are going well for you all.
I see your point and of course all prolifers agree that we need to give the baby a face and humanity ( notice that I mentioned humanity first in my post).
I agree that u/s is a wonderful prolife tool but I have friends who have done sidewalk counseling and worked in PCCs for years and it takes more than one approach to touch different abortion-minded women. Many already know they are carrying a “baby” but still “cannot see the forest for the trees” and refuse to think beyond the pregnancy to the future of their child becoming an adult who could possibly change the world. I think you are overthinking the word “potential” because pro-aborts use it as a hot button term with pathetic phrases like “potential life” when we are already talking about a distinctly separate human being living inside of his/her mother.
Take care.
Why, oh why must everything always become about race?
I agree. It’s a shame that Dr. King’s dream of judging one another by the content of their character, not the color of their skin, is still a long ways off.