Sunday Word: “The real battle is Christ vs Mohammad”
A great deal of blather has been expended on “the defense of our values.” This plays right into the fanatics’ hands, for they know we don’t have any….
Perhaps the most discouraging thing, in our inaptly captioned “war on terror,” is the response that can be elicited from the West’s real fools: those who say “this is not about Islam,” when even they know perfectly well it is about Islam and nothing else.
By now, the politically correct allow no captions at all. They are trapped because they have no positive values to defend, and thus no way to understand the people who intend to annihilate them…
Instead of positive, Christian values, which answer to the Muslim ones at every point (whether in agreement or disagreement), we now present a nothing. Our “freedom” is articulated in purely negative terms, as human “rights” to indulge any form of license, “so long as it doesn’t hurt anybody” in a narrowly immediate, material way….
Islam is a positive force. Its followers believe things, and many will fight for them. The fanatics may be twisted, but their cause that is not selfishly personal. They fully intend to conquer Europe – unfinished business from the Seventh Century – and their tactics and strategy are hardly counter-productive.
With each new strike they win more deference, and inspire more support among young Muslims. Each punch they land sounds the hollow in the decadent Western chest. We will not even acknowledge that we are at war, so complete is our surrender.
But the real battle, as they understand, is not Islam versus an empty licentiousness. That is too easily won. It is instead Christ versus Mohammad: the only battle in which they can be thrown onto the defensive; in which their own children can be turned against them.
~ David Warren, The Catholic Thing, January 9
[HT: Andrew Smith]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I could not have said it better.
Thank you!
I’m presently reading Why I Left Jihad, by Walid Shoebat, an ex-Muslim terrorist.
I’ve also read Once an Arafat Man: The True Story of How a PLO Sniper Found a New Life, by Tass Saada.
Christians who were once Muslims have a depth of understanding about this which has been very enlightening to me.
Remember Lepanto!
Where are our Knights of Malta, our Don John of Austria, our King Jan Sobieski for today?
We don’t even know our own history. We are ashamed to teach about the military struggles of Islamic empire and Christian defense.
We don’t even know why bin Laden chose September 11 as the date for his attack. (The date is very significant to Moslem jihadists.)
It is no surprise that the Islamic world is winning the propaganda war. They are talking, and we cannot.
We don’t even know our own history. We are ashamed to teach about the military struggles of Islamic empire and Christian defense.
Because a contrary view has been taught as fact for many years, I really think most Christians and other people simply don’t know the truth.
This is something Walid Shoebat covers in his book. He gives a thorough history lesson.
Self-proclaimed ex-muslim terrorist Walid Shoebat you mean.
R, have you read Shoebat’s books?
Have you read Taas Saada’s book?
Have you read I Dared to Call Him Father by Bilquis Sheikh?
There's much more reality in their books than in your posts.
Del, one more thing about true history:
Shoebat also relates the history of Israel and Palestine after WW2. There’s so much the Western world does not know and understand about that issue.
I don’t read fabrications paraded as truth Claire. Shoebat is a fraud.
Ignore Shoebat if you please, “R”. You ignore a lot of reality anyway.
Have you read the other two books I mentioned?
You ignore a lot of reality anyway. – well no. As stated, I am ignoring what isn’t reality. The man’s a fraud.
Have you read the other two books I mentioned? – no, why do I need to? The only thing I have challenged is your acceptance of Shoebat’s story. That’s it, nothing else. Unless you are imagining something else?
Do the others subscribe to the exact same strain of belief that you do? If they don’t then how can you take them seriously?
The reason I mentioned the other two books, “R”, is because those authors are not frauds, and they make the same statements he made.
I just finished another book, In the Presence of My Enemies, by Gracie Burnham, and she echoes the same facts which the others have related – statements made by Islamic terrorists/captors to her and others who were kidnapped and held for ransom. Many others (including her husband) were killed.
If you don’t read their books, if you don’t know what’s in them, you can’t call them frauds.
That’s fine, read the books of non-frauds. Just treat those by frauds with care.
Shoebat is a proven fraud, why would I read his book.
Do the others subscribe to the exact same strain of belief that you do? If they don’t then how can you take them seriously?
“R”, I don’t know what you mean by “same strain of belief”. They are born-again Christians who believe the Holy Bible to be the true Word of God, as am I.
They are born-again Christians who believe the Holy Bible to be the true Word of God, as am I. – ah, but which interpretation of this “word of god”? There are so many.
I’ve already answered that question, “R”. Christ Jesus said God’s Word IS truth and that, if anyone wants to know the truth, he will. Over and over He said, “It is written.”
“If any man continues in My Word, he will know the truth, and the truth will set him free.” (John 8:33)
Have you done this?
Christ Jesus said God’s Word IS truth and that, if anyone wants to know the truth, he will. Over and over He said, “It is written.” – yes, and there are multiple versions of what people claim is the meaning of what is written. Do the authors you mention subscribe to the exact same strain of belief that you do? If they don’t then how can you take them seriously?
“If any man continues in My Word, he will know the truth, and the truth will set him free.” (John 8:33) – is this supposed to mean anything to me?
Have you done this? – have I done what?
We’ve been over this before. Not multiple versions. Multiple translations. Only recently has this changed, in an attempt to justify something which God says is sin.
I’ve also already answered your other questions. What do you mean by “exact strain of belief?”
My question to you “Have you done this?” meant, have you taken the challenge which Christ Jesus offered in that verse?
Again – If you don’t read their books, if you don’t know what’s in them, you can’t call them frauds.
We’ve been over this before. Not multiple versions. Multiple translations. Only recently has this changed, in an attempt to justify something which God says is sin. – not so. Which ‘books’ were and were not included was decided centuries ago. Various books were translated from other languages centuries ago. Theologians have always argued over meanings and there have been differing versions of the bible over the centuries.
I’ve also already answered your other questions. What do you mean by “exact strain of belief?” – you cling to what you believe to be the one and only true interpretation of biblical text. Others have theirs. You deride them as being incorrect. So if these authors differ in any way to your interpretation then you must obviously find their writings to be erroneous.
My question to you “Have you done this?” meant, have you taken the challenge which Christ Jesus offered in that verse? – why would I do that?
Again – If you don’t read their books, if you don’t know what’s in them, you can’t call them frauds. – what rot. Shoebat has been exposed as a fraud. My just reading his book wouldn’t determine whether he is a fraud or not. The same goes for you.
The Lord said that when a person is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, He will teach that person what is true and real as he reads His Word. I have experienced that.
I have known hundreds of Christians during my lifetime who were also led of the Holy Spirit, and they experienced that too.
God revealed His Word to men, faithful men of old who were led of His Spirit as they wrote what He revealed to them.
What do you believe about the Bible?
The Lord said that when a person is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, He will teach that person what is true and real as he reads His Word. I have experienced that. – a lot of other people make the same claim. Their versions of what is true and real vary from yours to a greater or lesser extent.
I have known hundreds of Christians during my lifetime who were also led of the Holy Spirit, and they experienced that too. – and?
God revealed His Word to men, faithful men of old who were led of His Spirit as they wrote what He revealed to them. – your evidence for this?
What do you believe about the Bible? – I put it in the same category as something like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Some accurate references to the place, culture and the odd character but that’s about as far as it goes.
So then, “Reality”, what is your standard of truth?
Factual. Real. Empirical. Logical.
Again — what is your standard of truth? How do you decide what is right and what is wrong, for example?