Voris: The problem with the pro-life movement is… Protestants?
by Carder
Forty thousand differing denominations have sprung up in Martin Luther’s foul wake, each one believing it has the truth in its completeness.
That is simply impossible. And the proof is in the pudding; you need look no further than the pro-life movement’s somewhat uninspiring record to recognize this sad fact.
It’s true that without the movement’s presence, the Culture of Death would have most certainly advanced further and achieved its wicked designs much earlier – but the fact of the matter is the Culture of Death is winning….
It’s true that without the movement’s presence, the Culture of Death would have most certainly advanced further and achieved its wicked designs much earlier – but the fact of the matter is the Culture of Death is winning….
And how this all translates into hampering the pro-life movement is that the issue of contraception can’t really be brought up because many Protestant pro-lifers either don’t see the connection to abortion or don’t want to, and some Catholics pro-lifers who do see the connection are reluctant to splinter support over the issue.
~ Apologist Michael Voris, submitting that pro-life Protestantism actually hurts the pro-life movement, Church Militant TV, March 11
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Well, not the warm and fuzziest of Voris quotes ;>). But I do think that the idea of contraception is at the root of how we get to abortion. “I didn’t mean to get pregnant..” is how we got to Roe v Wade.
9ek, nicely said. As the president of our Lutheran Church Missouri Synod congregation and a previous Elder and Life Minister, I also agree with Mr Voris that the contraception mindset has directly led to the abortion mindset. As soon as sexuality is removed from the possibility of conception, abortion is seen as an option. I am disappointed in Mr Voris laying the contraception issue solely at the feet of Lutherans and other Protestants, though, as the issue is found in Roman Catholic households as well. To put it bluntly, blaming Lutherans for Catholics using contraception or having abortion is preposterous and insulting to allies, especially when more than one of us have been some of Roman Catholicism’s greatest defenders in the Lutheran Church.
Mr. Voris said that the Protesant heresy, which is replacing God’s judgment with our own individual judgement, is what was to blame for the contraception morality prevelant in our society. It’s the logical consequence of losing faith in God’s Church and making ourselves the arbiters of Truth.
As it appears there are now two “Eric”s posting on here, I apparently did not pick a unique moniker when I started posting five years ago. I’ll go by Eric the Lutheran as that should be unique … well, maybe.
I apologize, but I really liked your prior moniker. I also like your new unique moniker. I really don’t want to deprive you of another moniker, so I’ll go with Eric the Catholic.
Eric the Catholic:
No problem, there was also a “Eric the AHA Apologist” who went by Eric this past week, so I should have said “three” Erics. I appreciate your words… Michael Voris has awesome things to say, including his words linking a contraception mindset to an abortion mindset. However, and I don’t think I wrote clearly in my earlier post: it is incorrect to say the obstacle to discussing abortion is because of Protestantism’s okay with artificial contraception when many Roman Catholics’ views on both contraception and abortion reflect society’s views rather than Church teaching. As a whole, our Lutheran congregation have more respect for Roman Catholic teaching than the majority of so-called Roman Catholic politicians, whom Michael Voris has called out in his other articles.
What is this? I thought this site was for Catholic bashing…oh well then I’ll just have to start complaining about the Protestant bashing at this site instead.
Eric the Lutheran,
I appreciate your words as well. I couldn’t agree with you more that the majority of Catholics’ views on abortion and contraception reflect society’s views. What this shows however, is that the majority of Catholics, like Protestants, don’t adhere to the Catholic Church’s moral teachings. Protestantism is just that, protest against the Catholic Church. Mr. Voris was saying that the Pro-Life Movement needs to be authentically Catholic and unified in the Catholic Church if it hopes to succeed against The Culture of Death.
Backing this topic up even more is that most do not see and understand the sin of Lust. If one does not heard a sermon on abortion very often, I would think that one would never hear one on Lust leading to all sexual sins.
“Voris: The problem with the pro-life movement is… Protestants?”
Voris has always been completely upfront about his belief that the root of all modern evils in the world is Protestantism. He just gets a lot of airtime here because of his criticism of insufficiently anti-abortion Catholic bishops.
I thought this site was for Catholic bashing…oh well then I’ll just have to start complaining about the Protestant bashing at this site instead.
Do whatever you like, but there’s a profound difference between this post and the one that prompted allegations of Catholic-bashing. In the latter post, Jill
1) reposted a demonstrably false story hinting that someone in the Vatican might be behaving reprehensibly,
2) embellished the demonstrably false story by stating as if it were fact that “the Vatican” was behaving reprehensibly, and then
3) posted a weekend question asking why the Vatican was behaving reprehensibly.
That’s not at all comparable to the question above, which neither imputes blame to any group of Protestants nor implies that the premise in the question is true in the first place.
The moral of both stories is that sooner or later, Christians will always turn against each other.