OSU student found guilty of destroying pro-life display
In April, Hans posted video of a woman at Ohio State University knocking down signs that had been erected by Created Equal showing the atrocity of abortion.
The vandal was identified as OSU student Calysta Santacroce, and Created Equal filed charges.
On May 7 criminal charges were lowered to “disorderly conduct” on the condition that Santacroce plead guilty and pay restitution of $126 to Created Equal, which she paid in cash that day.
When the judge asked Santacroce to explain herself, she said it had been a bad day, and she did something she knows she shouldn’t have. “He [CE staff member] provoked me,” Santacroce claimed.
When the judge asked how so, Santacroce responded, “He asked me, ‘What do you think of my signs?’”
Santacroce was fined $50, in addition to the restitution.
Here again is that video. Warning: Profanity…
[youtube]http://youtu.be/B7Eap1smsy8[/youtube]
[Top graphic via We can end abortion on Facebook]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Well…. does it surprise you? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=41415637233&set=pb.564377233.-2207520000.1370563469.&type=3&theater
A bad day. That’s her excuse. What kind of day do aborted babies have?
Maybe that’s why Biola said no to Diana?
I’m glad she was found guilty. You can’t just go around vandalizing other people’s displays.
Excellent. Justice was served.
pro lifers will continue to be attacked by pro death people. Kudos to
these pro life students for their courage.
If you find yourself with time on your hands sometime Jack, just type ‘atheist display vandalised’ into google – then you’ll see where attacking stuff you don’t like really comes into its own, and how much gets done about it by authorities.
I’m well aware of anti-atheist vandalism and violence, Reality. It’s just as anti-freedom of expression as vandalizing a pro-life display. Vandals are annoying and childish, it’s rather pathetic to be sooo worried about people seeing an opposing view that you have to damage it to make sure no one sees it.
Little perp’s excuse: “It was a bad day…”
Reality says:
June 6, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Maybe that’s why Biola said no to Diana?
Gosh dern, Reality!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!
I know you’re a troll, and your favorite hobby is torquing on Jill’s readers — but this is the third time that you have said something genuinely funny and/or insightful… and all of those were in the past week.
What’s going on with you? In all sincerity — are you trying to be genuinely real?
Del, Del, Del, Del, Del, Del, Del………………………………………………….Del :-)
I am always genuinely real, maybe I’m just a lttle too esoteric for some people sometimes.
There are times when the raging mob here can’t see their own hands in front of their faces.
The Biola thread. Biola is by its very nature an institution which is anti-choice. Its even creationist for crying out loud. They stopped one student from displaying a couple of signs they considered inappropriate. What is the reason Biola exists – academic education. Not anti-choice activism. Yet look how much time, energy, angst and spite has been flowing from those who would normally be lecturing that people should be spending more time helping CPC’s and blocking pedestrian flow outside PP. Talk about turning on yourselves!
Here here Jack! I’ve seen pro choice displays and if it ain’t mine I ain’t touching it!! Vandalism is a crime just like keying someones car!
I wouldn’t destroy their signs although I disagree. They have their right to protest violence free.
My word… there really are people who act and talk like that, aren’t there? It’s not a caricature!
Did you get the eugenicist tone of her rant? “Do you want to pay taxes for babies born to crack-heads?” – way to stereotype the underclass… and you have to feel the irony, when someone who one reasonably presumes is a liberal wants to kill the babies of the poorest and most disadvantaged, just to save taxes.
use the right term…PRO LIFE.
Reality says:
June 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Del, Del, Del, Del, Del, Del, Del………………………………………………….Del I am always genuinely real, maybe I’m just a lttle too esoteric for some people sometimes.The Biola thread. Biola is by its very nature an institution which is anti-choice.
Let’s get one thing straight: Choice is not a virtue. Choice is not reality.
If Truth means anything, then it means Reality.
Reality is real and solid; it is the same thing for everybody. As far as “choice” goes, one can choose to exist in reality — or one can choose to live in a lie.
The reality is that human lives are sacred. As strong human beings, we have a duty to protect and save innocent human life from persons and forces that would do harm.
So when someone seeks to kill a child, because that child’s life is not “worth” keeping, we know this is a bad choice. It is an evil choice. It is choosing a lie over reality. It is equivalent to choosing to use drugs in order to be a happy — it only achieves a false sort of happiness.
Such a choice hurts the chooser as well as the victim.
But when a lie is so pervasive that most people do not recognize it — for example, when slavery was as common as abortion is today — it is worth putting up posters that show the truth.
I wish I could ask her if she really wants to pay for that fine. XD
Education will LEAD to pro-life activism. It always does.
“Let’s get one thing straight: Choice is not a virtue. Choice is not reality.” – I’d be rather interested to find out how you come to that conclusion!
“If Truth means anything, then it means Reality.” – yep. Your truth is your reality and my truth is my reality. You and I probably agree on what is truth and what is reality about almost everything. But there’s nothing iron-clad that proves we are right.
“Reality is real and solid” – yes I’m real, but hey, I’ve lost 30 pounds in the last year so go easy on the ‘solid’ buddy :-)
“it is the same thing for everybody.” – yes, everybody has their truth and their reality.
“As far as “choice” goes, one can choose to exist in reality — or one can choose to live in a lie.” – whose reality? Whose lie?
No… reality is one, real thing. Reality does not change, just because individuals or even whole cultures are mistaken about it. Reality is not something that I possess or you possess — that would be “realities.” There is only one. Reality is. We can only understand it — or misunderstand it.
Slavery was not right, even if the Constitution permitted it. It was not right for Jews to be gathered and starved, just because Hitler thought it so.
To be sure, many people want to “create their own reality,” one which benefits the creator over weaker persons who are less able to defend themselves. Powerful people have even passed laws, using the government’s power of enforcement to impress their “reality” upon the rest of us. Hitler’s “Final Solution” and Roe v. Wade are excellent examples of this.
But reality remains real and the same for all of us. Either it is good to kill children for the sake of convenience and I am wrong…. or children deserve to be protected from harm and you are wrong. That’s reality.
Congrats on the weight loss, Reality. I hope no one starved you against your will or sucked away some critical mass of you that they didn’t want.
Your last question: ”Whose reality? Whose lie?” This is a question for ethics and moral philosophy.
– Nietzsche, of course, suggested that the most powerful sociopath gets to make his own rules, according to his own will. We know how that worked.
– Most of the world’s great religions have something to teach about this, almost always some version of treating others as we would wish to be treated.
– Science admits that it is not able to answer questions about good and evil and human rights…. But science does insist that the child in the womb is a human child, and it cannot be any other sort of thing.
The only thing for sure: You do not own reality, or the ability to “redefine” it. Reality is not in your own head. The answer to the question “Whose reality?” is therefore, “Not yours.” Reality is outside of you, and you must seek understanding outside of yourself.
“Your last question: ”Whose reality? Whose lie?” This is a question for ethics and moral philosophy.” – then why all the bumph above?
“- Nietzsche, of course, suggested that the most powerful sociopath gets to make his own rules, according to his own will. We know how that worked.” – that’s ‘will’ and ‘rules’, not reality or truth.
“- Most of the world’s great religions have something to teach about this, almost always some version of treating others as we would wish to be treated.” – yes well, let’s say no more.
“- Science admits that it is not able to answer questions about good and evil and human rights…. But science does insist that the child in the womb is a human child, and it cannot be any other sort of thing.” – and? That’s two distinct points you’ve made.
“You do not own reality, or the ability to “redefine” it.” – we all own our own reality.
“Reality is not in your own head.” – I disgree. You have one and I have another and there is nothing, absolutely nothing, which enables either of us to claim that ours is 100% correct.
“The answer to the question “Whose reality?” is therefore, “Not yours.” – whose then? Yours? Says who?
“Reality is outside of you, and you must seek understanding outside of yourself.” – not all of it.
I don’t expect you to find all of my reality true or all of my truth real.
It sounds like you expect me to find all of your reality true and all of your truth real.
A flat earth was once considered to be the reality and the truth. We now know better. A great many other things which were considered truth and reality have been proven not to be so, no matter how convinced people were of it at the time.
You believe that all that you consider to be the truth and reality is indeed truth and reality, so do I. Time will – again – undoubtedly prove both of us wrong to a greater or lesser extent.
Guilty!!
Bam!!
And I do love this
If you support abortion why does seeing it make you so angry??
A flat earth was once considered to be the reality and the truth. We now know better. A great many other things which were considered truth and reality have been proven not to be so, no matter how convinced people were of it at the time.
You do realize you’ve just given away the whole game, don’t you, Reality? This is what we have been trying to tell you all along. Reality is reality, no matter if some people don’t agree. Their not agreeing doesn’t make the real unreal. Thinking that the earth is flat didn’t make it flat.
You are also right that we can disagree about things that aren’t yet certain. But whether the unborn are human beings is not one of those things. Science has already settled that they are. Therefore, as human beings, they have the same right to life and the same protections as all other human beings. PERIOD.
Get how it works, now?