New Stanek WND column: “Missing from Tiller’s eulogy: The A-word”
Of everything I read about the June 6 funeral of late-term abortionist George Tiller, I thought this was the most telling, from the New York Times:
But for the most part, Dr. Tiller’s funeral focused less on his work than on his life with his family and friends. The word abortion was never uttered….
Clearly they all knew: Tiller was murdered for his “life’s” work, but the reason was unmentionable? Sad. Even in death George Tiller’s “vocation” was anathema….
Conversely, without ever saying the A-word, family and friends implied that if anything would earn Tiller a place in both heaven and history as a martyr it would be the tens of thousands of abortions he committed. From the Associated Press:“Dear God, get heaven ready, because Mr. Enthusiasm is coming,” said Larry Borcherding, of Overland Park, who first met Tiller a half-century ago when both were students at the University of KS. “Heaven will never be the same. It will be a better, better place with George in it.”…
But if what Tiller did was so heroic, why not describe it?
“Dear God, get heaven ready, because one of the few who not only stomached but relished aborting late-term babies (We called him ‘Mr. Enthusiasm’!) is coming!…
Continue reading my column, “Missing from Tiller’s eulogy: The A-word,” in today’s WorldNetDaily.com.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
It’s much easier to be politically correct and gloss over the truth, isn’t it?
I’m sorry, but just because the late term babies he dismembered alive couldn’t scream, doesn’t mean they didn’t suffer excruciating pain. Just because the children he slaughtered were located above (or perhaps it was just their head that was above) thier mother’s cervix, doesn’t mean they weren’t precious, innocent babies.
He was an evil man, a serial killer, a mass murderer. Perhaps he felt he was performing a noble service for distressed women, perhaps he did it for the money. Does it matter?
Deep down, he knew what he was doing.
While I condemn the act that took his life, and my condolences go out to his family, I do not mourn his loss.
Sorry.
Every been to a Mafia family member funeral?
They also get “preeched into heaven”.
Can’t say that I have xp,
Religion sure can be deceitful.
Good article and it once again shows the hypocrasy of the left.
It’s true…. one could not imagine a eulogy of Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, or Ghandi without mentioning their life’s work and what made them heroes.
Let me clarify, we all hope the best for everyone, right? And none of us is perfect, we all need God’s grace and mercy. But His Love is extended to us for a season. He says, “Whoever will, come and be washed, forgiven, made new.”
Sadly, many don’t accept His invitation.
Ed, I agree with you. I will not mourn the loss of an evil man. I had hoped that he would have repented, and for that I am sorry. Maybe there will be hope for his family to establish a relationship with God.
Amen Heather.
There was hope for you and I, we didn’t deserve it.
He’s so wonderful! I know His Heart would love nothing more than to redeem their lives from destruction.
Gotta get back to work.
Peace!
Amen, too, Heather.
“Maybe there will be hope for his family to establish a relationship with God.”
With Life there is still Hope…
It should also be a wake up call to us all. None of us know when, how, or where we are going to die. But one thing is for sure. It will happen to all of us! Everyone who has drawn a first breath will also draw a last. Tiller can no longer shed innocent blood. Will the patient load waiting for their Monday morning abortions go elsewhere? Maybe. However, Tiller’s killing spree is over.
The choice is up to us. God wants a relationship with us. Tiller’s relationship was with his designer God. “I’ll kill babies Monday through Saturday, and go then I’ll to church and pray on Sunday.” It doesn’t work that way. Too bad he didn’t feel awful about being an abortionist, repent of it, and then gone to church to love and serve the lord!
I hear it a lot at the abortion clinics as the girls go in. “My God is a forgiving God, so he’ll forgive me for this abortion I’m having.”
Ed, Heather and friends…
Lest there be any doubt whatsoever that this was a twisted, evil human being just go to the 2 min 50 sec point in the following audio clip provided by our friend Father Pavone at PrietsForLife.org
This is Tiller boasting of the services he provides for the family of the slaughtered baby…Identification and separation services complete with family photographs, bonding sessions, locks of hair, religious ceremonies, and more… hearing is believing! This is one of the most perverted, evil things I have ever listened to.
This rivals abortionist Martin Haskel’s self-congradulatory speech to himself about the wonderful service and good deed he has performed on behalf of these women who just want to get on with their lives… a speech given while he is seen picking thru the pieces of baby hands, feet, legs arms etc that he has just ripped out of the mother… he has to insure that the entire baby has been removed! This was shown on youtube on this site last month.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/audios/george-tiller-1.mp3
Rick, gee. Tiller sure did use the word baby a lot! That should have sent the feminists howling!! I wonder how they would knock that one down considering it came from an expert at their own camp!!
Tiller alternated the word baby and fetus. Why? Because it’s the same thing. At the end he says “When it’s over, someone will bring your baby to you.” Okay. That’s all I needed to hear. Abortion = a dead baby.
I’m sorry but this is just twisted beyond belief. After “delivery of the stillborn” the parents may wish pictures of the baby to show others afterwards, and to hold the baby and to bond with it….. Tiller used the word baby a lot as Heather pointed out…… how do you “bond” with the baby after you have chosen death for it?
I mean I TOTALLY understand this for parents who chose to deliver a baby that they know will die shortly after birth. Anderson Cooper interviewed such a woman whose daughter died within a couple of hours. I’ve also read some stories of babies that died within minutes.
But what Tiller describes…. how could he keep doing what he was doing and live with himself?
I’ll never understand.
Oh and another thing. Tiller said he injects the baby with digoxin because this is painless for the baby. And he said he got asked that quite a bit… will this be painful for the baby. He says its not using the injection.
As if this makes it more palitable!
Jill, I get it. Dr. Tiller was a late-term abortionist. Sad, very sad. An appalling act. But must we kick someone when they’re down?
The sad reality is that he, his family and even his church totally missed the mark. In fact he was ‘serving the Lord as an usher’ at the time of his death.
We know we are sinners. Sinners saved by grace. But as Paul said, “should we sin then so grace can abound? Absolutely not!”
It’s easy to say we accept God’s grace, but we must also obey the One Who extends it. If our lifes, or our churches are not built on solid biblical truth, but personal or social opinion then just become a social club. Don’t call yourself a church because you taint the reason God created it. To be a light in the darkness.
To be set apart…
My prayers go out to Dr. Tiller’s family, and those not willing to open their eyes. Indeed I would much rather stand before the Lord someday with Jesus as my Advocate, then try to enter on my own ‘life’s work.’
Rhonda
I think you make some good points here. I do not believe we are trying to ‘kick someone when they are down’, though. I beleive it is good to critique and analyze such a horror story as Tiller’s. Everything should be exposed including this audio clip I had previously mentioned. We can learn from these things, be shocked and sickened and disgusted.. but unfortunately, like the holocaust, we need the evidence, pictures, audio clips to get the complete, real picture of this evil.
This is where I agree with Gregg Cunningham’s efforts to invade the comfort zone that so many pro-lifers have created for themselves by NOT allowing disturbing pictures and audio into the public arena… hence, not much progress really.
As to Paul’s quote… I wonder if Tiller’s twisted mind thought that by sinning more and more… Grace would abound that much more? Wow, how do you top a life of mass murder like his?
For all of you who have been so kind in what you’ve posted, to Dr. Tiller and how he lived his life, please point out *one place* in the Bible where Jesus acted like you have. The closest I can think of is where Jesus called the Pharisees, those religious leaders of his day, white washed tombs and sons of hell – and even then, he wasn’t hateful or self-righteous as some of you have been. You’re holding yourselves up as those with the knowledge of the truth and yet you aren’t even imitating the man you call Lord. You should really think about how you proport yourself in the future.
While I don’t condone nor do I lift up what Dr. Tiller did as the right way to live, I do know that he saw his mission as HELPING those who he served. He didn’t “know what he was doing was wrong,” he instead saw his work as a legal way to help women and to avoid the unneccessary deaths caused by backstreet abortions.
I think it is tragic that he was gunned down while handing out a church bulletin and my condolences go out to those who survived him.
Elisa,
Why should we not accuse you of judging us?
Elisa
Would you be willing to view an excellent and accurate 3 minute video that describes, step by step, how some late term abortions are performed?
How about another excellent teaching video describing how 1st and 2nd trimester abortions are performed? Do you think those bloody little hands and feet with the muscle, tendons and cartilage just magically appeared there?
Back alley, front alley, side alley… who cares which alley one punctures a baby’s skull and literally sucks their brains out!!!
Maybe the Lord will allow you to address the 48,000,000 (and counting at the rate of 4000 a day) babies with this same sermon you have launched on us! What kind of response will you receieve from this large crowd when they hear your sympathy went to this mass murderer and you made no mention of the horrible way their lives were terminated?
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
National Outrage: Wichita Abortion Clinic Now Closed
Jayne Lyn Stahl
Posted: June 9, 2009 08:46 PM
Far be it from me to judge…
Today, too, it is fair to say that Dr. Tiller is not longer alone. Today, we’re all victims as fear has triumphed and we, as a society, have taken one huge step back to the days when a mother can, once again, be allowed to die in childbirth. Only a hundred years ago, we didn’t have the science to prevent the tragic loss of the mother’s life; now we do. Only now, there are some who would like to take us back to the same mindset that makes procreation a woman’s primary raison d’etre. So, indeed, when Scott Roeder took George Tiller’s life, not only did he commit first degree murder, it was a hate crime against women.
By closing the Wichita clinic, women will be denied access to a medically-necessary procedure, and one intended to save their lives, a message that fear is the most powerful weapon of all.
….And, today, the Tiller family have given choice opponents what they’ve wanted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jayne-lyn-stahl/national-outrage-wichita_b_213521.html
Elisa,
I’m sure it’s quite confusing for an abortionist when they toss all the little bodies they killed into a furnace at the end of the day. I’m sure most of them still think, “This wasn’t a baby.”
Janet 4:35, that is such a lie!! If people only knew that if these cases to save a woman’s life were legit, any hospital in the country would perform emergency surgery to save the mother’s life and then attempt to save the child as well.
Abortion just isn’t good medicine. If a woman’s life is endangered by the continuation of a pregnancy, any OB in the country would be able to help save her life. Abortion is called “elective” for a reason. The ones that are considered “therapeutic” are not medically necessary.
How long before the congressional champions of choice line up to establish a federal holiday for ‘mr. enthuiasm’?
‘Tiller the Killer’ day. He chose to choice childern with gusto. George never met prenatal child he liked…well enough to spare.
Where will the memorial monument be constructed and what form will take?
A man of mr. Tillers stature and reputation cannot be allowed to ‘cross over’ without a perpetual reminder of who he was and what he ‘chose’ to do with life and his hands.
What other man in human history can claim to have killed 60,000 fellow human beings with his
own two hands?
Maybe congress can just combine all the mass murderers and serial killers and commemorate them on a single federal holiday like they do
with Presidents Day.
Why I bet all the mothers and fathers of the deceased children are so eternally grateful for Tiller’s tireless and selfless efforts they will ante up the funds for the ‘wall of shame’.
What about the ‘dead babies r us’ crowd? Shouldn’t they be front and center in honoring the man who did what no single man has done before?
Come and lay a wraith at the tomb of the unknown baby.
yor bro ken
Only now, there are some who would like to take us back to the same mindset that makes procreation a woman’s primary raison d’etre.
Ms. Stahl seems to have succumbed to society’s mocking of motherhood. How sad that abortion is seen as something that “saves” a woman from this dreadful fate.
We did not write George Tiller’s legacy.
He did, with his sorry mispent life. Tiller’ name has become a ‘reproach’ among the nations. A symbol of scorn and shame and cursings.
Let it not be said of you, “He is like a Tiller!”
If he publicly professed to having personally killed 60,000 prenatal kittens or puppies none of you hypersensitive artificial flowers would hesitate to condemn his beastial brutality.
George Tiller never heard the ‘pop’. (I am not talking about the gunshots.)
yor bro ken
Carhart sure has gall. He’s turning up everywhere the state run media will have him, talking about continuing Tiller’s “mission.”
To the best of my knowledge even Tiller didn’t go on national TV pushing his agenda. But Carhart stops at nothing, including comparing Tiller’s death to MLK and pro life activists to the KKK.
In response to the question “what would you say to the people who abhor this procedure (once again ABORTION never mentioned just a “procedure” which could mean having a tooth pulled) Carhart said this:
“Well, first of all, to the people that abhor, I would suggest that they don’t have it done.”
That same old tired cliche repeated by all pro aborts “if you don’t agree with abortion dont have one.”
Same as saying “if you don’t approve of bank robbery don’t rob a bank” or “if you don’t agree with rape don’t rape anyone.”
Let’s stop being politically correct and say what Carhart should say if he was honest:
Well, first of all, to the people that abhor killing innocent babies in the womb, I would suggest that they don’t kill them.
That’s what this coward should be saying.
Admit you are an abortionist!
You can read his interview on the Communist News Network here:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/zoe-ortiz/2009/06/10/late-term-abortionist-starts-his-movement-cnn
Carhart is on a talking tour. claiming that the Tiller at the Holocaust museum was generated like those pro Lifers generate hate and killing.
apparently he has no appointments. If he had abortions, it would pretty much keep him ion his stool facing the table and the stirrups.
I think some are trying to generate investigations..That is common for guilty people to look for faults in others. This whole mess is helping people learn what is up with babies and abortion.
Yes. I just heard on the news that the Holocaust museum , there was a shooting.
Fox news was discussing how the state run media is having a love affair with Barry.
Even the editor of Newsweak who called Barry “sort of god.”
So much for impartial journalism! It’s Pravda.
Did anyone catch Jon Voight calling out BO on Beck? He was excellent. He came across as someone genuinely and deeply concerned at BO’s radical agenda and its impact on our children’s future.
Beck said taking the position he has in Hollywood, it was no wonder they blew him up on the last episode of 24:)
Ed,
YES! Go Jon Voight! Another actor who is vocally against this administration is Craig T. Nelson who was on Beck’s show a couple of weeks ago.
I hear Gary Sinese is a conservative also however he’s not “out of the closet yet” I dont think.
However here is hoping guys like Voight and Nelson will encourage other actors to be bold enough to state the truth about Barry.
Although Hollywood is overwhelmingly liberal there surely are a few with brains.
It’s just sad that I think they fear jeopardizing their careers.
It’s insane because coming out as a gay makes a career now, and coming out as a conservative can ruin it.
You nailed it Joanne, insanity to be sure.
I’m afraid it may have to run it’s course, just like the Carter Administration. He led us into double-digit inflation, weak foreign policy…
Then Ron Reagan came in on his shining white horse and saved the day.
You know, this time, it may not be a new president, but Jesus Himself coming back for His Bride.
It just seems like our world is falling apart at the seams. Plus, Revelations says that all of the nations of the earth will gather against Israel. I always wondered in that scenario, what would have happened to America. I think we’re finally seeing a president that is more interested in reaching out and making peace with the Arab world and I can see BO abandoning Israel.
Ed,
I can hardly believe the news some days and yet, we do know things are going to get worse, don’t we?
Jesus coming back for His Bride? YYYYEEEESSSSS!!
I’m glad John Voight is a stand up guy. I wish Angelena wasn’t a lib, but that’s the way it goes. I hope more and more celebs will begin to come out as Obama continues to destroy us.
Different agencies estimate that in 1995, the human race murdered 42-46 million of its own unborn children.
That was years before human trafficking and forced sex slaves and prostitution grew to become the 2nd largest criminal industry in the world. Worldwide abortions now probably number in over 50 million.
We murder 10’s of millions of our own children every year. Think about that. Millions and millions and millions. Every year. Year after year.
Jesus said as it was in the days of Noah, (rampant wickedness) so shall it be before His return.
Time to get ready.
“I hope more and more celebs will begin to come out as Obama continues to destroy us.”
I don’t know why I find that remark funny Heather:) I guess because it’s so obvious to me (and I’m no rocket scientist) that we are headed for disaster yet MSM hails BO as some type of god.
Insanity.
It’s really tragic when you think about what BO’s doing to this once great country.
But we voted him into office (not me, but the American citizenry).
We’ve only ourselves to blame and it’s up to us to fix it.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves as human beings.
Ed, It’s going to be time to reap and sow. Hahaha! Some of these Hollyweirdos even threatened to leave the USA had McCain won! These spoiled brats will soon be wishing that Obama had been the loser. I was shocked at the win, but others told me, “I only expected this.” We have got some really hard times ahead.
Hey Ed, where are the jobs he promised? I know a lot of Ohioans are out of work. People are losing their homes. I see a lot of women at the abortion clinic. Main reason given “I can’t afford another kid.” DANGER!!
It just seems like our world is falling apart at the seams. Plus, Revelations says that all of the nations of the earth will gather against Israel. I always wondered in that scenario, what would have happened to America. I think we’re finally seeing a president that is more interested in reaching out and making peace with the Arab world and I can see BO abandoning Israel.
Posted by: Ed at June 10, 2009 7:23 PM
Yes he definitely has thrown Israel under the bus, and has been sympathetic to Hammas, a terrorist organization.
I remember hearing a joke awhile back…. “why did Jimmy Carter vote for OBama?” The answer is “So he won’t be regarded as the worst president in history.”
I have thought with Barry being an extreme leftist if not Marxist that his policies are so bad that by 2012 the Carter years could look like the good old times.
However I also think you are right this could very well be the time that the Lord comes back for his own very soon.
When you have “journalists” saying he is “sort of God” and you have abortionists called “saints” and implying they are doing God’s work how long can it be until severe judgement comes?
Joanne, I think he will go down in history as one of the worst!!! No doubt.
Heather,
I wonder if some of those Hollyweirdos will soon be keeping their mouths shut. People like Oprah and others who were so in the tank for Barry it was embarrassing.
However it seems in just a few short months polls are indicating many are unhappy with his policies. He ran as a centrist (or as much as he could) and people like Palin tried to warn of his ties to radicals and his extreme leftist voting record yet Palin was ridiculed and villified and it’s still going on today with the likes of Emptyheadman. (Letterman)
As for the state run media….with the exception of Fox they have NO credibility whatsoever. They are exactly like what Pravda was in the old Soviet Union. I dont think they can ever redeem themselves, and they deserve a lot of blame for Barry getting in and also for not even attempting any type of fair journalism.
Heather,
Yes, by 2013 Carter will be handing the mantel over to Barry. Worst FORMER President ever.
I see a lot of women at the abortion clinic. Main reason given “I can’t afford another kid.” DANGER!!
Posted by: heather at June 10, 2009 7:54 PM
Yes, I think that is one of the main reasons why women abort. That and being in an unstable or abusive relationship.
Pinecone,
Where you comin’ from hombre?
I remember hearing a joke awhile back…. “why did Jimmy Carter vote for OBama?” The answer is “So he won’t be regarded as the worst president in history.”
Very funny Joanne.
Your so right Heather.
I think it’s going to force people to look to God though, tough times always do.
Like they say, there are no atheists in foxholes.
Who do you like for the next PResident? I really like Jim DeMint and John Ensign. I think either of these would be great.
Pro life, fiscal conservatives, strong military. DeMint in particular has been very much against the out of control government spending.
Yes Heather, Letterman should be careful. He’s using his platform for the wrong side. He’s liable to get prayed off the air.
You know Heather, when I’m not posting here I’m really busy with my business so I don’t even know DeMint and Ensign.
But if you like ’em, I know I’ll like ’em.
Any friend of yours is a friend of mine:)
When you have “journalists” saying he is “sort of God” and you have abortionists called “saints” and implying they are doing God’s work how long can it be until severe judgement comes?
I think you nailed it right there Joanne.
Why is Letterman still Palin bashing? Deflection perhaps? If he wasn’t still recycling Palin material, face it, the only 2 left are Obama/ Biden!
Make sure not to pad the pockets of the liberals. Don’t pay to see their movies. Boycott their products. Let’s do our part!
Heaven forbid that Letterman ever admit he was wrong!..Joanne, I loved the joke!
QOTD, I’m glad Alveda King socked it to him! [Carhartless}
Just watched the Craig T Nelson interview Heather, you’re right, good guy.
Well, 935 EST and time to get ready to button things up for the day.
Peace out all you wonderful Pro Life soldiers!
Keep the faith!
Thank you Ed! Have a nice night!
Why is Letterman still Palin bashing? Deflection perhaps? If he wasn’t still recycling Palin material, face it, the only 2 left are Obama/ Biden!
Posted by: heather at June 10, 2009 8:27 PM
I think Emptyheadman is pashing Palin still because….. well…. his head is empty…. and he cant come up with anything else.
Besides, she’s a Christian and pro life. That makes her evil. That is…. if you’re a llberal, and we can be certain Emptyheadman is.
Good name for him Joanne:] Yep, His material is dated! How long will these Bush blamers keep blaming him? They keep saying “Give Obama time.” He inherited this deficit! NO! He created it! Enough Lettuceman!
Joy Behar, “Oh Give em tiiimmmee fa heaven’s saaakes!”
Whoopi Goldberg “We have made it.” “Oh yes we can!”
So out of all the thousands of women whom Dr. Tiller helped, not one of them came forward to eulogize him and express her gratitude for the goodness he had done?
Heather,
The libs will never stop blaming Bush. I was talking to someone the other day about the UK…. their economy is really in the tank. Anyway this person agreed it’s a grave situation… but guess whose fault it was?
Margaret Thatcher! LOL
Hello? The Labour party has been in for what…. 12 years now?
But they had nothing to do with it. Ok.
You just cant reason with liberals.
So out of all the thousands of women whom Dr. Tiller helped, not one of them came forward to eulogize him and express her gratitude for the goodness he had done?
Posted by: Luana at June 10, 2009 8:47 PM
There are tons of “testimonials” on the internet, however I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some of them are bogus.
Actually to be fair, Bush was certainly deficit spending, however, he looks frugal now compared to what Barry is doing.
And government takeovers of banks, car companies, you name it. And appointing all these “czars” who are accountable to know one except the Prez himself.
Joanne, I’d bet $$ on that! Yes. It’s difficult to argue with a liberal. It’s funny, but i just went and had dinner with some elderly friends of mine. Too bad the guy is a lib. We just don’t “go there” if you know what I mean. It’s weird. Anyway, he got on a kick this evening about Bush and republicans. He also said that abortion is “a woman’s issue only.” I thought to myself, George, your mental disorder is acting up. IT’S CALLED LIBERALISM!
The libs can sure get up there and protest the war though! I was reading the other day that Susan Saran-wrap, I used to adore her, had an abortion when she was 20. She will attend the annual pro-death march for children, yet protests war because it is “violent.” Um, abortion is one of the most violent acts I can think of.
Sadly many people have the same attitude about abortion that your friend does. I hestiate to call them “pro abortion” because I think they honestly don’t understand what is involved.
In some ways I wonder if Carhart is doing us a big favor appearing on all these talk shows. OF course he sanitizes it, never uses the word “abortion” or anything like that…. but people aren’t stupid, and it’s well known that he is a late term abortionist like Tiller was…. anyway there could be a big backlash about this.
Another thing that drives me crazy about the state run media…. why don’t any of them ever mention the obvious profit motive these abortionists have? By conservative estimates Tiller was making at least a million a year. And that was after all his expenses.That’s a big incentive don’t you think?
But no… it’s much easier to paint them as “heroes” whose only motivation is to “help” women…. never a peep about the helpless lives lost or the 60,000 babies that Tiller admitted to killing.
And I suspect Carhart is spending a lot of time on the news because his “business” has all but stopped. Pictures were widely circulated on the internet of his filthy vile “Clinic” and now Tiller’s clinic is closed permanently… so where is he to go? I suspect Carhart’s income is very low these days.
Another possible reason he has talked about “training” others do do the “procedures” he does. I’m sure there are big bucks in that.
Libs just all have some really twisted principles!
Is that Susan Sarandon? She’s been a big leftist for years, as has Tim Robbins. I didn’t know she had an abortion but I’m not surprised.
You know…. I used to think the celebrities political beliefs should play no part in if I go to their movies or watch them on TV but I’m boycotting now.
Many celebs keep their opinions private and I respect those who do.
No I’m talking about the vocal ones like Tom Hanks who trashed Mormons after prop 8 and has made two movies now very anti catholic.
I am not Mormon or Catholic but they are pro life also and they also believe in marriage between a man and woman only.
I asked George, how is abortion a woman’s issue when it takes 2 to create the baby? His reply? “If it were up to me, I’d let you women duke it out.” “You have to understand, these women were going to raise criminals.” “I’d rather pay a one time fee for abortion then to feed another mouth on welfare.” “Welfare lasts a lifetime.” I couldn’t get a word in edgewise. I swear! I told him about women who regret abortions. Again. His reply, “They weren’t mentally balanced before they aborted.” “They would have raised a criminal.”
Yes. Susan Sarandon.
Heather,
Put George on, please. :)
Then there was Cher, another post abortive mother, and Demonic Moore. They put together “If These Walls Could Talk” It’s about the days of illegal abortion. Ha. Like they would know! Cher played the doctor in the film. I have not seen it, nor will I!
Carla, like phone a friend???
George is a 72 year old man. His wife and I met in 2000. She is against abortion personally, but she doesn’t feel that she should get involved. George also supports gay marriage.
Hey Carla, this entire conversation began b/c “Right To Life” called him for a donation. Now, in order to get an earful, you just might have to say that you are calling from RTL! LOL!
Oh well in that case I’ll call George pro abort.
However I do think a lot of people are nominally “pro choice” and can be brought over to our side if they are educated enough.
Did Cher and Demi have abortions too? I know Whoopie has. I imagine MANY celebs have but most of them don’t talk about it. Only the very militant ones.
Tell George you have a mentally unbalanced friend….ha.
George is just repeating what he’s heard.
Why is George’s wife personally opposed to abortion? Is it because it kills babies? So she wants other women to be able to kill babies?
The tide is going to turn, my friends.
A fine romancerSusan Sarandon is known for her passionate roles, but what of the passion in her private life? As her latest film is released, she talks frankly to Suzie Mackenzie about her first husband, her affair with Louis Malle and her relationship with Tim Robbins
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‘You can use your career or you can let it use you’ … Susan Sarandon (right) and Kate Winslet in Romance & Cigarettes
Who would have thought it? That in Bush’s America one of the most successful screen actors in Hollywood today would be a woman nearing 60: “I’ll be 60 this fall.” A woman of outspoken leftwing sympathies – she used the occasion of presenting the Oscars in 1993 to draw attention to a group of Haitians interned in Cuba, more than a decade before most of the world had heard of a place called Guantánamo Bay. Who has no problem admitting that she took drugs in her youth: “I came of age at a time that was not just rock’n’roll but when people questioned. And part of that questioning was taking mind-expanding drugs. I took mescaline, sure.” Or that she has had an abortion. “I had an abortion in my 20s. My first [and only] marriage was falling apart. I had an affair with an insane guy and I knew having a kid with him wasn’t the right thing …” And who now chooses to live with her – 12 years younger – partner, actor/director Tim Robbins, and their two children, John Henry and Miles, rather than marry him: “I think one of the reasons I haven’t married Tim is that I hate that couples assumption – that once you’re committed to someone you stop treating each other as individuals. I like getting up knowing I am choosing to be with that person.”
Yes. Cher had an abortion. Demi Moore? Not so sure.
The tide is going to turn, my friends.
Posted by: Carla at June 10, 2009 9:35 PM
Carla….. I believe it already is turning. There may have been a bump here because of recent events but still I think the pro life side is winning.
Another possible reason why Carhart is everywhere.
Carla, consider this. George’s favorite TV shows. Meet The Depressed, Hardballs, Communist News Network, Disgrace The Nation, and he’s a huge Obama supporter!!! Need I say more??
Cooper then asked, “And can you, to those people who abhor this procedure or disagree or maybe don’t understand it, what do you say? Why would you choose to do this procedure when you are one of only a handful?”
Once again, Carhart steered the conversation back to his agenda, saying:
Well, first of all, to the people that abhor, I would suggest that they don’t have it done. I think the women who need it certainly are the women I’m worried about. We hear, we see protesters that number in the tens, twenties and maybe the thousands sometimes. Dr. Tiller and I see thousands of patients every year. We have a very vocal terroristic minority of people that are anti-choice. They have chosen to take the law in their own hands. It’s vigilantism. They have murdered Dr. Tiller. They have murdered four providers before him. The question is how long is the country going to allow this terrorism to continue before they crack down and before we have the right to perform a perfectly legal procedure.
Yes it’s vile to say Carharts “procedure” of dismenbering and slaughtering innocent babies is perfectly legal. No wonder we are in such trouble.
Joanne, are you talking about Anderson Cooper? If so, do you know where he stands on the abortion debate? Someone told me he was gay.[???]
George’s favorite TV shows. Meet The Depressed, Hardballs, Communist News Network, Disgrace The Nation
LOL! I love those names! I suppose he would love MSDNC with Olbermoron and Madcow as well.
Heather,
I’ve heard that Anderson is gay also but if so he is firmly in the closet.
Also it’s hard to say with Anderson. He had a fairly sympathetic piece recently interviewing a woman who refused a late term abortion and gave birth to a daughter who died in a couple of hours.
On the other hand, he had Carhart on and while he asked some hard questions he let Carhart off the hook.
He also had no one on the pro life side. So although I doubt Anderson is pro life, he’s at least more reasonable than almost anyone else on the state run media. Of course I dont include Fox in that.
Heather,
I forgot to add…. Newsbusters has been doing a great job exposing the state run media and how they have been glorifying Tiller and supporting the abortion lobby.
http://www.newsbusters.org
Joanne, thank you for the link! When it comes to MSLSD, consider the source!
I almost forgot to include News Weak!
Hey Joanne, I didn’t go far enough down on Newsbusters! I looked today. I thought they were on the other side for some reason. Yep. I watched the Carhart/Cooper video. Whoa! Carhart wants us labeled as terrorists! I guess Carhart doesn’t take into consideration the 93% of women who regret their abortions. Although I believe it’s more like 100%. Some women are just stuck in the “relief” phase. That or denial.