Obama’s home state poised to pass FOCA
UPDATE, 12:20p: Here’s a list of organizations supporting IL’s FOCA as well as politicians, including AG Lisa Madigan.
[HT: liberal water carrier Archpundit via Cal S.]
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UPDATE, 10:50a: A pro-life legislator makes a good point: The abortion industry would flock to IL if IL FOCA passes because they wouldn’t have to have malpractice insurance.
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Well funded, well organized, Obama-inspired radical IL pro-abort politicians and groups have reintroduced the state version of the Freedom of Choice Act.
While IL is already the abortion capital of the Midwest, with no enforceable law stopping it (including the 14-year-old IL Parental Notice Act, still stuck in court), and IL taxpayers already fund Medicaid abortions, IL’s FOCA would do additional harm to mothers and children in the Prairie State as well as create an opening for other states to pass their own FOCAs.
Just one unbelievable component: IL’s FOCA would allow nonphysicians to commit abortions and disallow civil lawsuits or criminal penalties for negligence or malpractice for abortions committed in “good faith,” i.e., “I didn’t mean to kill her.”
IL’s FOCA had 42 House co-sponsors but is beginning to lose ground. 4 have removed themselves since last week. On the other hand the bill is on its 2nd reading now, so a vote is imminent….
Students for Life of IL, StopIllinoisFOCA.comand Catholic Conference of IL have links to a petition and General Assembly member contact information.
Cardinal George (on a roll!) had a letter printed in the March 18 Chicago Sun-Times warning against IL FOCA’s plan to force pro-life health care providers to participate in abortion. In it he wrote something interesting:
This proposed law will drive Catholic doctors and nurses from health care and will make it impossible for Catholic hospitals to continue to be places where life is always respected, where no one is deliberately killed.
Chicago Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Paprocki has already warned Catholic hospitals would close rather than become complicit with abortion.
He likely didn’t realize his own state may be the first.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Just one unbelievable component: IL’s FOCA would allow nonphysicians to commit abortions and disallow civil lawsuits or criminal penalties for negligence or malpractice for abortions committed in “good faith,” i.e., “I didn’t mean to kill her.”
Unthinkable.
“He likely didn’t realize his own state may be the first.”
Or maybe he did…
Bethany, I agree totally.
We have the same thing going on here in New York…the RHAPP bill. http://www.abortionbill.org/
It was introduced by Spitzer.
Its name has changed to the “Reproductive Health Act. It is for sure, FOCA on a state level.
We held many demonstrations last year and are on top of it again, but here in NY the abortion capital of the world, it is most likely abortion will be enshrined with this….
here is NARAL’s take
http://www.prochoiceny.org/getinvolved/alerts/200705221.shtml
http://www.catholicconferenceofillinois.org
Bill, thanks, will post a link.
Just one unbelievable component: IL’s FOCA would allow nonphysicians to commit abortions and disallow civil lawsuits or criminal penalties for negligence or malpractice for abortions committed in “good faith,” i.e., “I didn’t mean to kill her.”
Unthinkable. ~ Bethany
Oh MY, My jaw just dropped to the floor.
I’m speechless.
Bethany 9:34am
Non physicians can do abortions and no one need be held accountable for any harm done to a woman.
This is showing respect and concern for women?
If I didn’t know better, I would swear you were talking about a pre-Roe advertisement as to why abortion should be legal!
Abortions performed by qualified medical professionals, in good faith and in accordance with accepted medical standards, shall not be subject to civil or criminal penalty.
Sounds just fine to me. I hope it passes.
So does this have much of a chance of passing?
“I didn’t mean to kill her.”
Chilling. Really.
Reality,
How do you define “good faith”?
Reality,
Would you permit a “qualified medical professional” to perform a cosmetic surgical procedure on you, “in good faith” in accordance with “accepted medical standards” and agree he/she should not be subjected to any civil or criminal penalty?
Does this ruling apply across the board to all surgical procedures or just to abortion? Why should abortion be the exception?
This can’t pass. There’s no way. If NARAL and whoever else would like to see some states fall abortion and some states remain in the fight for freedom, then we will be entirely divided and the voices of millions will be shut off.
This can’t possibly have a chance of passing. It must fail- it’s just not possible for anything to blatantly opposed to human rights to pass. What can we do to help even if we live outside of these states?
In the bill itself, they also cross out ‘abstinence until marriage’.
Let’s all remember to refer to the abortion INDUSTRY because that is exactly what it is.
“Accepted medical standards”…
This alone is the biggest joke of all, considering that abortion is unregulated and that feminists and pro-choicers fight every attempt made to regulate it.
How many cases have we seen of abortion clinics having substandard personnell, filthy conditions and blatant disregard for any standard of ANYTHING ?
All in the name of protecting the right to kill innocent helpless children and with no regard for women.
Reality,
How do you define “good faith”?
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at March 20, 2009 10:54 AM
not only that but how will doctors become qualified?
Will at some point, doctors be required to do abortions to become accredited?
angel,
What doctors? They said “qualified medical professionals”. One would almost get the impression there are not a lot of doctors out there anxious to do abortions.
Mike 12:52PM
It doesn’t get much more substandard than hiring people off the street as does Tiller. One has to wonder where the licensing and regulation boards are in Kansas.
Section 25 is about pregnancy terminations. Section 24 might logically treat intercourse terminations. Here’s how it could read:
Intercourse terminations shall be performed in accordance with accepted standards of psychiatric practice, by the method that, in the clinical judgement of the attending professional rapist or sodomite, will best serve the interests of the practicing rapist or sodomite.
Just FYI… doctors are licensed. Institutions of higher learning are accredited.
Yep, reality has it right. The protections from malpractice lawsuits and penalties only apply if the abortion is done ACCORDING TO ACCEPTED MEDICAL STANDARDS. That means (among other things) done by a physician (or, in some states, by a certified, trained physicians’ assistant under supervision by a physician.)
Since every malpractice lawsuit, by definition, claims that accepted medical standards have been violated, this isn’t much of a protection. You can all relax and loosen your sphincters. If we were smart, we would apply the same protections to ALL health-care providers.
SZ,
Does “qualified medical professionals” mean physicians? Does it mean NPs or PAs who are supervised? Are you certain a physician will be supervising and available for emergency or to admit a patient to a hospital for follow up care?
What is meant by “good faith”? What will be considered “accepted medical standards”?
Someone who violates all this and operates on an unsuspecting woman will not have to face any criminal or civil liability? Someone meets these standards but still botches the job will not be subject to any liability?
Doctors who have done their best to adhere to standards have still been sued.
FOCA = Lower standards for women’s health care
Is there any procedure performed on men’s reproductive organs for which a practitioner cannot be held civilly nor criminally liable if something goes wrong?
What pro abortion woman wants her right to sue for malpractice taken away in the event she is injured in a medical procedure?
Who would write such language into a bill taking away a patient’s right to sue for damages?
Is this the first time in history a specific patient class has been exempted from equal protection under the law??
Patients’ Rights !!! (except for women having abortions)
People say Chicago is corrupt, but is there no bottom to the abyss?
Hippie,
An excellent post.
Your list is just a bunch of medical professionals and their supporters…No radicals there. kinda makes you look unprofessional, Jill.
Hippie – wanna hear about corrupt : Read about the mayoral run of Bernie Epton against Harold Washington. As a republican he ran a notoriously racist campaign that ultimatly failed, leaving him a tired and bitter man. It was the 1980’s in Chicago, but the republicans ran a campaign reminiscent of 1950’s Alabama.
Corruption ends when people take responsability. I never heard Bush say that he made any mistakes, not in his presidency and most certainly not in the last budget, which he wrote and developed and left for the next congress to pass. Epton surely never took responsability for his racism and look where it left him… broke, alone and crazy out of his mind.
A more long range study of history might provide your arguments with the oxygen they need to be something more than freshman-comp level angst.
A more long range study of history might provide your arguments with the oxygen they need to be something more than freshman-comp level angst.
This from someone who doesn’t know the difference between a bowling ball and bullet holes. ROFL
F.U. – It is not my fault that the “artist” who drew the cartoon has poor skills such that a reader cannot simply glance at it and understand. It’s poor skill on his part. But then again I don’t have time to sit around and mope, reading editorial cartoons about political figures all day, so I guess I can show deference to your expertise.
YLT- I understand it’s not your fault. You blindly support the prez no matter what. He never makes a mistake. And neither do you. Anything unflattering said about him is also an assault on your ego, so you have to lash out in attack. I get it. I wish you a pleasant evening in your world of obama worship.