New Earth Day ad celebrates nature’s great gift, children
by Carder and Jill
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The ever-hip, ever-relevant CatholicVote.org once again socks it to the culture, this time with giant ads celebrating Earth Day, April 22….
CV made ad buys in Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. 50 giant 12-ft versions of the above ad will run on buses, subways, and trains in each of the 4 cities.
The ads began popping up in Chicago last week and will start in the other 3 cities this week. It wasn’t enough to display a pregnant global belly barreling down the intersection. CV checked for reactions, these in the Windy City…
As CV wrote:
Why not show the world the way Earth Day should be celebrated – by celebrating nature’s greatest gift – human life.
Our goal is to use Earth Day to get Americans to think more deeply about what it means to truly respect the Earth and creation. Trendy environmental groups too often view humans as the enemy of nature. We believe human beings are God’s greatest creation, and the Earth’s greatest resource….
Let’s glorify the Creator by transforming Earth Day into a celebration of His gift of life.
Help support these ads by donating to CV. As a bonus, CV has teamed up with Endowment for Human Development, whose awesome prenatal videos I’ve featured here several times. For a gift of $40+ CV will send you EHD’s video, “The biology of prenatal development,” which is distributed by National Geographic.
I love it!!!
It shouldn’t take long before this is perverted into
“Celebrate Nature’s Greatest Gift: CHOICE!”
Carder and Jill,
Thanks for your wonderful endorsement on our campaign!
Because of the generosity of our supporters, we just added Los Angeles as well!
Joshua Mercer
Communications Director
CatholicVote.org
I disagree. While in some it can bring awareness in others it only confuses or takes the focus off of life by equating it to the Earth. In others it might raise the question would we abort the earth?
I believe the goal is to raise the earth impiously to the worship level or God. Like politics, if you muddy the waters and confuse people, they are more likely to not care or place trust in things like hype and change rather than truth.
Love this!
Check out this Earth Day event tomorrow at Eastern Illinois University in Charleston, IL. It is sponsored by the Fellowship of Catholic University Students (FOCUS) and is entitled “Green Sex: The Real Sexual Revolution.” Here is the link for the event on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/event.php?eid=110670498964568
Haha, how appropriate. My step-mom is having my little brother today.
Dan Wurtz states:
“While in some it can bring awareness in others it only confuses or takes the focus off of life by equating it to the Earth. ”
CV states:
“Trendy environmental groups too often view humans as the enemy of nature.”
I think their point is to say that we cannot place the value of human life below that of the planet. Those who believe abortion is a valid solution to a “problem” are not thinking about the dignity of human life to begin with and hopefully this campaign will grab their attention.
Kudos to CV and EHD!
Haha, how appropriate. My step-mom is having my little brother today.
Posted by: Lauren at April 21, 2010 10:43 AM
As in “giving birth”? Praying for her!!
Yep, as in giving birth! This is number 7 for her. I’ll post as soon as I get the call that Baby Billy is here!
I wrote this article to the pastors of a church who were going to take their youth group to participate in “Earth Day” at a local Indian Reservation:
Earth Day has its roots, among other things, in the Humanist Manifesto which was first published in 1933:
http://www.americanhumanist.org/who_we_are/about_humanism/Humanist_Manifesto_I
and revised in 1973:
http://www.americanhumanist.org/who_we_are/about_humanism/Humanist_Manifesto_II.
They are why God and prayer were taken out of schools and we have legalized abortion and also why same sex marriage is being view more and more as a human right..
Here’s a sampling of their fourteenth statement:
“FOURTEENTH: The world community must engage in cooperative planning concerning the use of rapidly depleting resources. The planet earth must be considered a single ecosystem. Ecological damage, resource depletion, and excessive population growth must be checked by international concord. The cultivation and conservation of nature is a moral value; we should perceive ourselves as integral to the sources of our being in nature. We must free our world from needless pollution and waste, responsibly guarding and creating wealth, both natural and human. Exploitation of natural resources, uncurbed by social conscience, must end.”
And in the same document this is stated:
“Religion
FIRST: In the best sense, religion may inspire dedication to the highest ethical ideals. The cultivation of moral devotion and creative imagination is an expression of genuine “spiritual” experience and aspiration. We believe, however, that traditional dogmatic or authoritarian religions that place revelation, God, ritual, or creed above human needs and experience do a disservice to the human species. Any account of nature should pass the tests of scientific evidence; in our judgment, the dogmas and myths of traditional religions do not do so. Even at this late date in human history, certain elementary facts based upon the critical use of scientific reason have to be restated. We find insufficient evidence for belief in the existence of a supernatural; it is either meaningless or irrelevant to the question of survival and fulfillment of the human race. As nontheists, we begin with humans not God, nature not deity. Nature may indeed be broader and deeper than we now know; any new discoveries, however, will but enlarge our knowledge of the natural. Some humanists believe we should reinterpret traditional religions and reinvest them with meanings appropriate to the current situation. Such redefinitions, however, often perpetuate old dependencies and escapisms; they easily become obscurantist, impeding the free use of the intellect. We need, instead, radically new human purposes and goals. We appreciate the need to preserve the best ethical teachings in the religious traditions of humankind, many of which we share in common. But we reject those features of traditional religious morality that deny humans a full appreciation of their own potentialities and responsibilities. Traditional religions often offer solace to humans, but, as often, they inhibit humans from helping themselves or experiencing their full potentialities. Such institutions, creeds, and rituals often impede the will to serve others. Too often traditional faiths encourage dependence rather than independence, obedience rather than affirmation, fear rather than courage. More recently they have generated concerned social action, with many signs of relevance appearing in the wake of the “God Is Dead” theologies. But we can discover no divine purpose or providence for the human species. While there is much that we do not know, humans are responsible for what we are or will become. No deity will save us; we must save ourselves.
SECOND: Promises of immortal salvation or fear of eternal damnation are both illusory and harmful. They distract humans from present concerns, from self-actualization, and from rectifying social injustices. Modern science discredits such historic concepts as the “ghost in the machine” and the “separable soul.” Rather, science affirms that the human species is an emergence from natural evolutionary forces. As far as we know, the total personality is a function of the biological organism transacting in a social and cultural context. There is no credible evidence that life survives the death of the body. We continue to exist in our progeny and in the way that our lives have influenced others in our culture. Traditional religions are surely not the only obstacles to human progress. Other ideologies also impede human advance. Some forms of political doctrine, for instance, function religiously, reflecting the worst features of orthodoxy and authoritarianism, especially when they sacrifice individuals on the altar of Utopian promises. Purely economic and political viewpoints, whether capitalist or communist, often function as religious and ideological dogma. Although humans undoubtedly need economic and political goals, they also need creative values by which to live.”
The Bible is very clear about us not being unequally yoked with non-believers and also not be associated with anything that “exalts itself above the knowledge of God”..
This is what was said about Earth Day (from Wikipedia) back in 1978:
“United Nations secretary-general Kurt Waldheim observed Earth Day with similar ceremonies on the March equinox in 1972, and the United Nations Earth Day ceremony has continued each year since on the day of the March equinox (the United Nations also works with organizers of the April 22 global event). Margaret Mead added her support for the equinox Earth Day, and in 1978 declared:
“EARTH DAY is the first holy day which transcends all national borders, yet preserves all geographical integrities, spans mountains and oceans and time belts, and yet brings people all over the world into one resonating accord, is devoted to the preservation of the harmony in nature and yet draws upon the triumphs of technology, the measurement of time, and instantaneous communication through space.
EARTH DAY draws on astronomical phenomena in a new way – which is also the most ancient way – by using the vernal Equinox, the time when the Sun crosses the equator making the length of night and day equal in all parts of the Earth. To this point in the annual calendar, EARTH DAY attaches no local or divisive set of symbols, no statement of the truth or superiority of one way of life over another. But the selection of the March Equinox makes planetary observance of a shared event possible, and a flag which shows the Earth, as seen from space, appropriate.” [19] At the moment of the equinox, it is traditional to observe Earth Day by ringing the Japanese Peace Bell, which was donated by Japan to the United Nations.[20] Over the years, celebrations have occurred in various places worldwide at the same time as the UN celebration. On March 20, 2008, in addition to the ceremony at the United Nations, ceremonies were held in New Zealand, and bells were sounded in California, Vienna, Paris, Lithuania, Tokyo and many other locations. The equinox Earth Day at the UN is organized by the Earth Society Foundation.[21]””
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Now, if you want to, as mature believers in Christ, do this as influencers of the Gospel into darkness, fine, however, to take our children into this situation on a “Holy Day” is extremely dangerous. Who knows what they might see or experience (perhaps a religious ceremony or such?) In my opinion it is much more biblical to do this type of community service as a part of our regular activities and not have it associated with a “Holy Day” that worships the earth. Silence is tantamount to approval.
Oh, Lauren… congrats on the new baby brother!! And I LOVE the ad. I think it is a large part of the Christian experience throughout history… looking at the culture around us, recognizing what they value and what resonates with them, and then using that knowledge to communicate a greater truth to them in a way they can understand.
Jesus taught using parables because THEY WORK.
And the hits just keep on coming.
This just in from the Seatle Times, newpaper of record for the left coast state of Washington:
Bisexual Men Sue Gay Group, Claim Bias
[Or how gay is gay enough?]
‘seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011657770_lawsuit21m.html’
Three bisexual [Bay Area Men] men are suing a national gay-athletic organization, saying they were discriminated against during the Gay Softball World Series held in the Seattle area two years ago”…[when the] “North American Gay Amateur Athletic Alliance in essence deemed them not gay enough to participate in the series.”
[How does one establish her/his ‘bone fides’ as being homosexual enough?]
“Each of the three plaintiffs was called into a conference room in front of more than 25 people, and was asked “personal and intrusive questions” about his sexual attractions and desires, purportedly to determine if the player was heterosexual or gay, the lawsuit alleges.”
[I wonder if that discussion aroused some passions amongst the participants? If the case goes to trial there will be discovery and any and all recordings, notes transripts will be supoeanaed and will become part of the ‘record’.
This custom designed for a Saturday Night Live skit, maybe even a movie.]
“The alliance ruled the three men were “nongay”,…
“This case is just about treating everybody in the community equally … and not interrogating folks about whether they’re gay enough to play,” said Melanie Rowen, an attorney for the National Center for Lesbian Rights, which is representing the three men.
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Where are these folks going to find a jury of their peers, when they do not have an objective way determine who that is?
yor bro ken
To the point:
I love the creative use of the baby bump, adds a new deminsion to the definition of the term ‘mother earth’.
HE’s got the whole world, in HIS hands….
That is a re-assuring thought.
yor bro ken
I’ll try submitting this again. ^.^
While I disagree with the idea that humans are more important than anything else in nature, I do like this advertisement. It’s very positive. We should celebrate life. Catholics and I will probably disagree on the value of humans versus other life, but we’ll have to respect our differences on spiritual matters and instead admire that thing that we celebrate together: life. :)
Though I have to add: what does homosexuality have to do with this? Why the article?
Other than saying, “The lives of gay men and women should be celebrated just as much as straight men and women,” which is true, it seems irrelevant to add the article about the lawsuit.
Anyways, back to the campaign: it’s good. Very neat- I love how the Earth Mother is on the woman’s stomach. Beautiful. :)
Vannah,
That perspective is not just peculiar to catholicism.
Go to a bible web site and do a word search for ‘crown of creation’.
Also the writings in the new testament indicate that creation has some sort of awareness of both the creator/Son of God and the sons of God.
The sons of God are human beings and the book indicates that creation is expectantly looking for their debut because creation knows that it’s liberation from the curse of death and corruption is associated with the sons of God.
The book indicates that man, unike the rest of creation, was fashioned by the hand of God out of created substance and then God breathed life into
him, the first Adam. We have this connection with creation that was severed or corrupted when sin entered into creation through this hybrid being of was made of both earth and God.
Creation was subjected to the curse by the act of the first Adam and the act of the second Adam began the redemption of creation, but an indication that this redemption has been completed will be the final revealing of the sons of God.
Through the sacrifice of Jesus the Christ we who have been called out of the darkness into HIS marvelous light have been given the right, the power and the authority to become sons of God.
Now I do not have clue what all that really means, but I am pretty sure it is not referring to ‘church’, but to the eklesia, the called out ones, the body of Christ.
yor bro ken
Vannah,
The newspaper article had nothing to do with the post.
It was just pointing out the comedy of stupid humans trying to arrive at a method to determine ‘gayness’ absent any measureable objective standard and, in the absence of said standard, stupid humans wrestling with reality to craft a model to fit their relative subjective fantasy world.
But someone keeps moving the cheese.
We all get saved from something(s) to some ONE.
Homosexuality is just one more trap from which stupid humans must be liberated.
Stupid humans is NOT peculiar to homosexuals.
It is an acute and chronic affliction common to all humanity for which there is only one cure.
yor bro ken
And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Genesis 1:28
Vannah,
The term “Earth Mother” means goddess of creation…. Is it your intention to refer to the planet Earth as a deity?
I think of Earth as a deity or perhaps Earth and all of the life upon her as a single life and the result of the Great Spirit. I don’t know for sure. I’m still technically an agnostic.
Some people I understand due to Christianity and the Bible believe differently. I respect that. As long as you’re not destroying the Earth, I respect your beliefs. I think that Christianity is a great thing- the words of Jesus are the words that everyone needs to hear because even if you aren’t a Christian Jesus taught love and that is important for everyone. :)
Like I said, I like that advertisement. It’s beautiful.
Hey guys, I just heard from my dad that my baby brother was born. He’s 10lbs 9oz! His name is Billy Harold, and he and my step mom are doing well. Thanks for all the prayers! I can’t wait to see him.
10/9…WOW! Even bigger than Bethany’s ‘little guy’!
Love to see a pic, Lauren. God Bless :)
Posted by: Vannah at April 21, 2010 11:35 AM
“Though I have to add: what does homosexuality have to do with this? Why the article?”
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I suppose one could make a converse tangential connection.
Homosexuals, without some kind of artificial technical intervention involving a contribution by the opposite sex, are NOT going to be able to
celebrate earth day by giving natures greatest gift if that greatest gift is a baby.
yor bro ken
giving natures greatest gift if that greatest gift is a baby.
yor bro ken
Posted by: kbhvac at April 21, 2010 5:01 PM
“Nature’s greatest gift” – yeah, tell that to a Catholic Brazilian mother of 7 (contraceptives and abortion are unavailable) who is living in one of the many Brazilian favelas. Right. Another bundle of joy. Tell that to a mother of 7 in poverty stricken Bangdalesh. Another bundle of joy. But yeah, Ken, I’m sure you can find a suitable biblical quote to make it all good. But yeah, overpopulation is a blessing.
I do enjoy reading your simple verses. It makes me even more thankful that I live in an educated and enlightened part of the country where religious zealotry is considered tres de classe.
As a mother of seven myself, I guarantee you that wherever a mother of seven resides, it is her children that give her reason to make it through each day. I have lived through poverty and abuse and huge struggles… my children were my comfort, my joy and my inspiration.
Since you have no ability to fathom how a mother of seven feels, I suggest you not attempt to speak on their behalf.o
Amen, Elizabeth. Perhaps you’d like to talk to my stepmom, Artemis. My dad got a few choice words today when he suggested (after a very hard labor) that perhaps my newest little brother would be their last.
I was riding the bike without the training wheels when I posted earlier at:
kbhvac at April 21, 2010 11:52 AM
But here are some supporting passage from the ‘book’.
Heb 2:6-3:1 6 It has been solemnly and earnestly said in a certain place, What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You graciously and helpfully care for and visit and look after him?
7 For some little time You have ranked him lower than and inferior to the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor and set him over the works of Your hands, [Ps 8:4-6.]
8 For You have put everything in subjection under his feet. Now in putting everything in subjection to man, He left nothing outside [of man’s] control. But at present we do not yet see all things subjected to him [man].
9 But we are able to see Jesus, Who was ranked lower than the angels for a little while, crowned with glory and honor because of His having suffered death, in order that by the grace (unmerited favor) of God [to us sinners] He might experience death for every individual person.
10 For it was an act worthy [of God] and fitting [to the divine nature] that He, for Whose sake and by Whom all things have their existence, in bringing many sons into glory, should make the Pioneer of their salvation perfect [should bring to maturity the human experience necessary to be perfectly equipped for His office as High Priest] through suffering.
11 For both He Who sanctifies [making men holy] and those who are sanctified all have one [Father]. For this reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren;
12 For He says, I will declare Your [the Father’s] name to My brethren; in the midst of the [worshiping] congregation I will sing hymns of praise to You. [Ps 22:22.]
13 And again He says, My trust and assured reliance and confident hope shall be fixed in Him. And yet again, Here I am, I and the children whom God has given Me. [Isa 8:17,18.]
14 Since, therefore, [these His] children share in flesh and blood [in the physical nature of human beings], He [Himself] in a similar manner partook of the same [nature], that by [going through] death He might bring to nought and make of no effect him who had the power of death — that is, the devil —
15 And also that He might deliver and completely set free all those who through the [haunting] fear of death were held in bondage throughout the whole course of their lives.
16 For, as we all know, He [Christ] did not take hold of angels [the fallen angels, to give them a helping and delivering hand], but He did take hold of [the fallen] descendants of Abraham [to reach out to them a helping and delivering hand]. [Isa 41:8,9.]
17 So it is evident that it was essential that He be made like His brethren in every respect, in order that He might become a merciful (sympathetic) and faithful High Priest in the things related to God, to make atonement and propitiation for the people’s sins.
18 For because He Himself [in His humanity] has suffered in being tempted (tested and tried), He is able [immediately] to run to the cry of (assist, relieve) those who are being tempted and tested and tried [and who therefore are being exposed to suffering].
Hebrews 3:1 SO THEN, brethren, consecrated and set apart for God, who share in the heavenly calling, [thoughtfully and attentively] consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest Whom we confessed [as ours when we embraced the Christian faith]. AMP
John 1:12-13
12 But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the authority (power, privilege, right) to become the children of God, that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) His name — [Isa 56:5.]
13 Who owe their birth neither to bloods nor to the will of the flesh [that of physical impulse] nor to the will of man [that of a natural father], but to God. [They are born of God!]
AMP
The earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanos, storms are just creation groaning to the Creator and the sons of God saying, “Come on we have suffered enough already for something in which we had no part or say. The Jews only suffered 300 years in Egypt. We have suffered for an eternity plus several millenia for a crime which we did not commit.
And like HE did when HE calmed the wind and the waves, Jesus replies to HIS creation and says “Settle down and be quiet. I will bring it to pass at just the right time, in the fullness of time.”
yor bro ken
Artemis,
Besides the “sanctity of life” notion which you don’t adhere to, there are countless economic reasons to sustain a population which is not happening in most industrialized countries …
Posted by: Elisabeth at April 21, 2010 5:34 PM
I used the figure 7 as an arbitrary figure for a woman, in a poverty stricken country, who has too many children. Are you aware of the dispair of the women in Brazil who have too many mouths to feed? Are you aware that their older children leave the home and live as street children? I am aware of this because a friend of mine, a pro-choice Episcopalian priest (woman), frequently does mission work in Brazil where she meets women who are overwhelmed because they cannot access reproductive technology due to the influence of the machismo Catholic church. And while having 7 children might be fine for you, it’s not fine for everyone. I know family planning is anethema to the mandatory childbirth crowd, but unfettered reproduction is bad for women and for the planet. Funny, I remember the women in my Irish Catholic neighborhood. By the time the kids numbered 12 and 13, moms (who were quite affluent) were strung out on drugs/alcohol (as were there older offspring who were my age) and their younger issue had a number of birth defects as a result of these women giving birth well into their 40’s. Meanwhile, the daddies were having a grand old time down at the local yacht club.
Ain’t we got fun.
Posted by: Janet at April 21, 2010 5:52 PM
So…we should take away a women’s right to an abortion because we need to sustain the population. Isn’t that as ethically problematic as forcing women to have abortions because of overpopulation concerns – like China. What’s the next step, Janet? Should we force every woman of childbearing age to have one child every two years. Those women who are single will give their issue up to childless couples. Wait a minute – that’s the plot the “The Handmaidens Tale.” Hmm… life mirroring art? Eh? Janet?
Posted by: kbhvac at April 21, 2010 5:45 PM
I really think you’d be more credible if you stopped quoting from your Middle Eastern book of origins. I could quote from the Ramayana or the Pali cannon; but it really wouldn’t advance the discussion. Arguing from science is one thing – but myth. Please. This is why some enlightened Europeans think Americans are stupid. Is that all you’ve got, Ken cuz ah’m not impressed.
“So…we should take away a women’s right to an abortion because we need to sustain the population”
No, we should take away a woman’s right to an abortion because killing our humans is always immoral and wrong.
“cuz ah’m not impressed” Is that all you got Artemis? cuz ah’m not impressed with those who support murder for their own convenience.
Citations for these assertions, Artemis? Oh, wait, you just throw out slurs, not facts.
‘Our health care sector is collapsed,’ Kenya obstetrician Stephen Karanja says simply, opening his hands in a gesture of hopelessness. ‘Thousands of Kenyan people will die of malaria, the treatment for which costs a few cents, in health facilities whose shelves are stocked to the ceiling with millions of dollars worth of [contraceptive] pills, IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Provera, and so on, most of which are supplied with American money.'”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/27/taking-on-the-overpopulation-myth/
The overpopulation myth, which is apparently still alive and well in the more ‘enlightened’ parts of the country, has proven to be an effective tool to the people who would rather kill than heal. They won’t spend money on life saving treatments, but will spend millions on contraceptives.
They won’t spend the money for prenatal care, because abortion is cheaper and gets rid of the ‘undesirables’.
Artemis, Maybe you chose that moniker to be ironic, but it is funny that you would choose the goddess of fertility and childbirth’s name to comment on a pro-life blog.
You’re so enlightened that religious intolerance comes with it, I suppose Artemis. I agree that arguing with Biblical quotes will get us nowhere, since religion is not part of this debate so it should not be dragged into it.
But if you truly want to make things better for women then we have to work together not throw snide remarks at each other. We can’t keep insulting each other’s sexual orientation (Ken) or religious beliefs (Artemis).
We have the power to end abortion among many other attrocities in the world (war, poverty, lack of education, child labor), but the first step is to stop and think before you speak.
Artemis, we’re not getting anywhere. Perhaps you ought to try listening to the world around you before you decide that not everyone is equal.
“So…we should take away a women’s right to an abortion because we need to sustain the population. Isn’t that as ethically problematic as forcing women to have abortions because of overpopulation concerns – like China. What’s the next step, Janet? Should we force every woman of childbearing age to have one child every two years.”
Artemis @ 6:00 PM
First and foremost, abortion is not a right and it’s legal only because of bad law.
Second, since we need to sustain the population, we should avoid characterizing abortion as a solution to fake “overpopulation” propaganda.
Third, there is nothing unethical about acknowledging that human reproduction is necessary to sustain a functioning society’s.
An lastly, it would be impractical to require every woman to have a baby every two years. There would be no way to enforce such a law since natural pregnancy cannot be willed.
Posted by: Vannah at April 21, 2010 7:27 PM
“We can’t keep insulting each other’s sexual orientation (Ken) or religious beliefs (Artemis).”
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While I disagree with the idea that humans are more important than anything else in nature,
I do like this advertisement. It’s very positive. We should celebrate life.
Catholics and I will probably disagree on the value of humans versus other life,
but we’ll have to respect our differences on spiritual matters and instead admire that thing that we celebrate together: life. :)
Anyways, back to the campaign: it’s good. Very neat- I love how the Earth Mother is on the woman’s stomach. Beautiful. :)
Posted by: Vannah at April 21, 2010 11:35 AM
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Vannah,
I have not met many peope regardless of their religious affiliation or personal philosophy who equate human life with any other animal life or plant life.
When you posit that concept in a post, do not be insulted or offended when it is challenged. Especially when you do it in the context of comparative religions.
Actually I did not challenge or insult your belief. I merely gave the basis for the Judeo/Christian world view of human life versus other life.
Unless your are a homosexual, male or female, you might take offense at what I posted in this string, but you can not be insulted.
The article and my accompanying comments did not ridicule anyones sexual preferences, but rather the sujective and prejudicial manner in which they determined who was or was not gay or gay enough. Can’t you see the hypocrisy and duplicity at play in those determinations.
Surely you can see that is just as absurd as a bunch of Latinos sitting around determining who is Latino or Latino enough to qualify for membership in La Raza.
To paraphrase one loon, “Just because you were born in Central American country, have a Spanish sirname and speak Spanish does not make you a ‘Latino’.
Set aside the fact that there were no Latinos til caucasian europeans, primarily Spaniards, and the indigenous people in the western hemisphere mingled their DNA.
Just how does one go about setting an objective standard for determining who is latino or latino enough to qualify for admission to Latino softball alliance?
Do you get it now?
yor bro ken
Posted by: Artemis at April 21, 2010 6:05 PM
“This is why some enlightened Europeans think Americans are stupid. Is that all you’ve got, Ken cuz ah’m not impressed.”
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artheeeelostinspace,
We can poll the audience and see who embraces logic and who does not.
You only agree with opinions that suit your relativistic world view.
You consistently reject arguements that refute your opinions.
If you have no belief in things supernatural then ignore the posts that have religious content.
I am not trying to impress, persuade or convince you of anything. Your time here has convinced me it would be a complete waste of time to engage you in any kind of meaningful dialog cause your whole reason for being here is to be contentious for the sake of being contentious.
I will accomdate in that regard. I will ridicule and mock your inane babblings hoping that at the least it will irritate you because that is the only reason you participate here, to irritate others.
If and when you are willing to be led where truth leads then I will engage you in respectful meaningful conversation.
Until then expect to receive better than you give.
yor bro ken
Posted by: Artemis at April 21, 2010 5:28 PM
“It makes me even more thankful that I live in an educated and enlightened part of the country where religious zealotry is considered tres de classe.”
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Arttheemisguided,
The education and enlightenment of the French Revolution produced the ‘Reign of Terror’ where kangaroo courts meted out their peculiar brand of vengenece with the guillotine.
In a little more than a year between 16,000 and 40,000 men and women commoners, intellectuals, politicians, all were liable to be executed on little or no grounds; suspicion of “crimes against liberty” was enough to earn one an appointment with “Madame Guillotine”.
Your ‘enlightened and educated’ colleagues are resonsible for the deaths of over 50 million pre-natal children and thousands or pregnant women have been maimed, made in fertile and killed by ‘your safe legal’ abortions.
Enjoy your fellowship with your enlightened and educated citizens. Just don’t make the mistake of saying or doing anything that might be considered a ‘crime against liberty’ or ‘counter-revolutionary’ or merely politically incorrect.
Artheemisinformrd,
When your mother was pregnant with you, what species of embryo/fetus was present in her uterus.
Ask some of your enlightened and educated friends.
yor bro ken
I love this ad! It neither denigrates God’s great Creation, with all its amazing animals and plant life, our home, nor does it denigrate the human family! Love it! We are all part of Creation, and we should care for Planet Earth *for* the future – for our children, so that they, too, may enjoy the Earth and praise God for His great Works.
A fitting quote from a man who would have loved this ad to pieces:
“Not the stars, not the farthest solar systems, not the millions of different species of animal life, but the child is the greatest of God’s creations.”
— Michael Jackson, who loved deeply the Earth, animals, etc, and did much to help and support them, but children he loved most of all.
His song “Earth Song” clearly demonstrates this by showing it’s not just about “Nature” (as divorced from humanity) but about us all together – nature and humanity together. We are all connected.
Just as St. Francis of Assisi said: “If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.”
Which why those who support the environment and animals, but not humanity, AS WELL AS those who support humanity, but to the denigration or harm of the Earth and animals, all reek of hypocrisy.
They go together. Love one, love the other. And most of all, love the Creator.
Blessings! I pray this ad reaches many hearts.
Posted by: Rachel at April 21, 2010 11:04 PM
“Michael Jackson, who loved deeply the Earth, animals, etc, and did much to help and support them, but
children he loved most of all.”
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Rachel,
You lost me on those last five words of that sentence.
MJ was one of the most musically gifted pedophiles of whom I am aware.
Using the words ‘children’ and ‘love’ in the same sentence to praise MJ is probably not the wisest combination of terms.
Kind of like saying, “OJ loved deeply the golf courses and casinos, but blonde ex-wives he loved most of all.”
OJ was one of the most athletically gifted double murderers of whom I am aware.
yor bro ken
“Surely you can see that is just as absurd as a bunch of Latinos sitting around determining who is Latino or Latino enough to qualify for membership in La Raza.”
OMG, I remember debates like that….
thanks for the reminder.
Vannah,
You are very special to me. I love that you come here and try to learn as much as you can. :)
I would give my life for my children. I would die for them. I would not give my life for an eagle, a turtle, a snake or a tree.
“MJ was one of the most musically gifted pedophiles of whom I am aware.
Using the words ‘children’ and ‘love’ in the same sentence to praise MJ is probably not the wisest combination of terms.”
Actually, with all due respect, he was most certainly not. There is not one shred of evidence against Michael Jackson. Not one. If you did your homework, you would find this to be the case. I suggest you visit http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com to find out more about what was actually done to Michael.
Michael, who gave more to charities than any other celebrity. Michael, whose children REMAINED IN HIS CARE. Michael, who was found NOT GUILTY, because there was NO EVIDENCE. Michael, whose FBI files contained NOTHING against him…I could go on. It was extortion, both times. Those filthy liars wanted nothing more than his money.
Just as Catholics are crying outrage against the unfair accusations against the Pope, the smear campaign by the media against the Holy Father — Michael was the victim of perhaps the greatest smear campaign in the history of the media.
Do your homework. Learn the facts. Don’t buy what the media trash sells you. If you are Catholic, would you want people buying the nonsense they say about the Pope?
Again, http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com is an excellent resource.
Try learning who Michael Jackson really was before making uninformed comments about him.
The pro-aborts have retaliated!
Check out this pro-choice rant that’s gone viral on Twitter. It’s about the above Earth Day poster and is tellingly entitled, “Women’s Bodies Are… Pieces of Land?”
lol
Here’s the link:
http://ow.ly/1BYwo
AH PCG,
She pops over here, provokes responses about becoming an abortionist and then runs to her friends FEMily and InsaneArtGurl to help her feel better about her “career” choice. She is only here to troll for blog fodder.
Bekah,
There is a comment waiting for you at Pro Choice Gals site. Women are land, dontcha know?!
Thanks for the heads up, Carla. :) I responded.