Jivin J’s Life Links 10-18-10
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- A UK man with multiple sclerosis set his flat on fire after his girlfriend refused to have an abortion.
- Susan Boyle’s mother was supposedly advised to abort her:
International singing sensation Susan Boyle has revealed that she could have been aborted as a baby in her mother’s womb if her mum had followed doctors’ advice.
But to her mother, a devout Roman Catholic, an abortion was unthinkable and she went through with the pregnancy.
Miss Boyle said doctors had told Bridget Boyle, then a 45-year-old mother of 8, that having another baby could kill her.
- Greg Fundstein had a post at National Review about NYC’s attempt to regulate pregnancy centers:
“It would be a great world if nobody needed an abortion. Nobody’s in favor of abortion,” Bloomberg said. But the mayor is wrong. Speaker Quinn, Council Member Lappin, and their friends at Planned Parenthood and NARAL are in favor of abortion.
When the head of the city’s legislative body and local subsidiaries of some of the most powerful organizations in the country attack fewer than 20 shoestring operations in NYC that offer free abortion alternatives, while nearly 90,000 women procure an abortion every year in the city, it is clear that it’s not about choice. It’s about abortion.
- I think Abortion Gang member ProChoiceGal is forgetting someone when she talks about how God would want her to fight for “the rights of all people”:
When I found the reproductive justice movement, I found God’s calling for my life. God’s purpose for our lives isn’t to spend our time hurting people, lying, and gossiping like many anti-choicers do. Instead of hurting, lying, and gossiping, wouldn’t it make more sense that God wants us to fight, with love and passion, for the rights of all people, women included? Isn’t that who God really is?
- A human embryo who had been frozen for nearly 20 years was recently born after being implanted. Amanda Marcotte thinks her LOL arguments are the reasons some pro-lifers don’t like IVF:
Apparently, they can be stored indefinitely. My first thought, unsurprisingly, went to how the anti-choicers out here are going to react to this. Since they believe that life begins at conception, and this kid was conceived in 1990, does that mean he’s 20 now? Does he get to vote? Will he get to drink next year? When he’s in kindergarten, will he be old enough to rent a car? I honestly think half the reason anti-choicers hate IVF is that it brings up questions like this that destabilize their worldview, and so they’d just rather ban it and forget about it.
My worldview is destroyed by such unstoppable arguments.
What is somewhat interesting is how Marcotte phrases the development: “And a healthy baby is born from a 20-year-old embryo.” When I first read that I was like: What? How can an embryo give birth?
I then realized Marcotte’s pro-choice vision of what an embryo is makes it difficult for her to say the embryo grew and developed into a born child because only living things grow and develop.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
IVF is still a big deal, contrary to Marcotte’s assertion that it is “almost routine at this point”. It’s expensive, stressful, with no guarantees.
I wrote a letter to Susan Dominus about her article in the New York Times about “deceptive” practices by CPC’s but have yet to receive a reply.
NYC is probably one of my least favorite places on earth. I can’t imagine being openly prolife there. At least here in Philly there are some prolife politicians and in certain parts of the city, many prolifers, but NYC is the abortion capitol of the country. This is really an example of David v. Goliath!
Kudos to Mayor Bloomberg on his statement: “And I’ve, as you know, always been a big supporter of a woman’s right to choose. But if somebody wants counseling on how to keep the baby, that’s certainly as important as advice on what to do if you don’t.”
Now that’s what I call being truly pro-CHOICE.
Nobody’s in favor of abortion.
Yeah, right, tell that to the abortion gang! There are A LOT of people very much in favour of abortion. Who see abortion as the best way to end poverty, abuse, maternal mortality, overpopulation, and global warming!!! AND to earn A LOT of money by doing it.
What God does ProChoiceGal believes – I have no idea! Definitely not the one Christians believe in, or Muslims (don’t know much about other religions and what they say about when life begins). And either way, to believe that any God would be happy at the prospect of life being terminated right from the very start – is unimaginable! One day, when she discovers the truth and realises the gravity of her current beliefs – it’s gonna hurt her where it hurts the most – her heart and soul!
Didn’t have enough patience to read non-sensical ramblings by Marcotte and comment, not gonna bother…
What God does ProChoiceGal believes – I have no idea! Definitely not the one Christians believe in, or Muslims (don’t know much about other religions and what they say about when life begins).
Vita: I don’t pretend to be an expert on other religions, but Orthodox Jews are generally prolife, as are some conservative Jews. Reform Jews — fuhgeddaboutit. The most PC people I’ve ever met are female Reform rabbis. Messianic Jews are strongly prolife, but they are not considered Jewish by the larger community.
Many Buddhists and Hindus are prolife. I was disappointed that the Dalai Lama, though, really isn’t. He said that abortion should be decided on a case by case basis.
I posted before about my parents, who often sit around talking about who “should” be aborted. They are not pro-choice, they are pro-ABORTION. I still love them, of course, but it’s not always easy.
Time to investigate New York City Council Speaker , Christine Quinn and see who has funded her campaigns. Has she accepted money from the PP and abortion lobby, NOW, NARAL, etc? Or is she acting out of pure, albeit misguided, motive?
If doctors who did IVF helped a couple create, say, two embryos at a time and implanted both of them, I wouldn’t have a problem with IVF. It’s when embryos get destroyed that I have a problem. This 20-year Neverland time warp thing is bizarro, but I’d rather have the kid be born than killed. Still don’t think being frozen for two decades is exactly the best idea, though.
Is there a list anywhere of people, famous or not, whose parents were advised to abort them? These stories always really interest me.
Andrea Bocelli
Susan Boyle
Tim Tebow
off the top of my head. :)
I’m inspired by ProChoiceGal’s words. It can hurt to have people question your deeply-held religious beliefs solely on the basis of your social and political preferences that they disagree with, but when I’m feeling down, I just remember that nobody can take my faith and spirituality away from me.
Well Joan, I guess you know how it feels to be labeled as a clinic-bombing, hate-filled, religious fanatic and not-too-bright homophobe just because you’re pro-life.
but when I’m feeling down, I just remember that nobody can take my faith and spirituality away from me.
Amen, Joan!!
Phillymiss,
Did Mayor Bloomberg really say that? Well, good on him.
Marauder and Carla,
Jack London’s mother was a very ill rape victim. No Jack London, no “Call of the Wild” for millions of young people to read.
Amanda Marcotte’s suggestion as to why pro-lifers don’t like IVF is enough to make a person roll their eyes and laugh.
Yeah, straw man fallacies are a popular, if not poor tactic of many pro-choicers when they can’t come up with a solid, factually-based argument or defense for their position. Why, between Amanda Marcotte, Joan, and Megan here, we’ve got enough straw men to protect a large corn field (please excuse the corny mid-west pun).
I may have mentioned this recently on another post: Susan Boyle isn’t the only musical talent who’s parents faced the A word. Back when Baby Gumm’s mother was pregnant, she inquired about how to get an abortion, but a family friend who was a medical student at the time, told her she’d regret it. Baby Gumm went on to star in The Wizard of Oz in 1939. How would we get over the rainbow without our beloved Judy Garland?
On the subject of religion, Mohammed (pbuh) once said, “Women, do not kill your children for fear of poverty.”
When I hear pro-abortion people invoke God to justify murder, well, I can only surmise that they aren’t interested in a woman’s right to reproduce. It’s curious because they claim to be against people who use God to justify being pro-life.
ProChoiceGal reminds me of Saul before God called him. Thinking she knows God and what He wants and going around advocating the murder of so many innocents….. I pray her life follows the same pattern even unto the end! Looking forward to your powerful testimony ProChoiceGal! And all other “Christian” pro-aborts who are following the same path ;)
“You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.” ~ James 2:19
ninek – Excellent point!
NYC is probably one of my least favorite places on earth.
Aw, that’s too bad. It’s my favorite place on earth!
NYC is actually one of my favorite places on earth. Easy to get around without a car, and most people are fairly nice. It is home to lots of abortion clinics, but it’s also home to a lot of pro-lifers, too!