Still standing with Planned Parenthood: Batman, Yoda, and a little orange monster
Planned Parenthood has launched an “I Stand with Planned Parenthood” fan photo campaign, but apparently only comic book and Star Wars characters who still support it. From its actual album…
Oh, wait, I found a real person of influence who still supports Planned Parenthood…
I realize PP is trying to appear glib, as if impending financial disaster really isn’t a crisis. If so, someone needs to tell the boss she needs to chill… and get a little less freaky “I Stand with Planned Parenthood” sign…
Feb.22, 2011 3:53 pm |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Comic book and star war supporters? From the pictures I see there don’t seem to be many living breathing ones. Honestly, I was being facetious when I suggested that PP President Richards consulted Superman when she spoke of speaking to a high ranking law enforcement official concerning the “pimps” on the undercover tapes. Now I’m not so sure, maybe she did speak to him! I mean she does have Batman supporting PP!
Gee, and I thought times were really rough for PP when all they could find to model their “I Had An Abortion” teeshirt was that feminist fossil Gloria Steinem.
I like the Storm Troopers. It really sort of catches the essence of PP’s spirit. Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader would totally be into killing children.
As I mentioned on another blog, I hope the Borg and the Daleks also declare their support.
It’s always the money. Given 10 days for the fate of Planned Parenthood and what do they do? – Make a contribution!!!
Planned Parenthood wants help – they want to help themselves to your wallet!
What’s that part from the first(-made) Star Wars movie where Princess Leia’s planet is destroyed and Obi-Wan says he feels a change in the Force as thousands of voices are silenced, or something like that?
“Responsible for the actions of their parents, children are not. Kill Luke Skywalker because his father embraced the Dark Side of the Force, do we? Removes a life from the Force, abortion does.” – Pro-Life Yoda
Hey, PP started it.
Hahahaha!
A whining plea for yet MORE money = 48 cents if they mail it
Photographing toys within Planned Parenthood offices to pretend people actually stand with them = $4.00 of electricity used
Watching PP go bonkers over their financial status = PRICELESS.
I knew we could put the fun in defunding.
@Marauder: <geek>
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke, Han, and Chewbaca are all on the Millennium Falcon, headed to Alderaan. As they near the planet, Obi-Wan sort of shivers and when asked about it says, “I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.” When they arrive, they discover the planet destroyed and all its inhabitants dead.
Yoda’s comment “Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you?” also seems relevant.
</geek>
I’ve gotten requests for donations from PP. What I love to do is stuff the return envelope with PL literature and return it to PP at their expense. One time I sent back a CD, which I’m sure increased the postage, and they had no choice but to pay it.
Hopefully I’ll hear from them again. If nothing else, you can send back an empty envelope. and they still must pay the postage.
It’s more than a little ironic to use children’s toys and action figures to promote Planned Parenthood.
Chris Arsenault says:
February 22, 2011 at 4:30 pm
It’s always the money. Given 10 days for the fate of Planned Parenthood and what do they do? – Make a contribution!!!
Planned Parenthood wants help – they want to help themselves to your wallet!
And those who want to contribute will. I just sent our wonderful Providence PP another check for $200. It’s funny, Chris, my state rep. is a conservative GOP in a district (more educated and affluent) that is solidly pro-choice. New England Republicans (educated and affluent) might be fiscally conservative but they are socially liberal and find the anti-choice movement so – ah- declasse. Religious zealotry isn’t popular in rock ribbed New England, Chris. You do know that our founder, Roger Williams, was a bit of a renegade, don’t you Chris? His spiritual descendants aren’t represented outside the Providence PP. It’s considered a bit – ah – tacky? All that prayer chanting just underscores that Reformation….But again, we respect a woman’s right to do what she wants with her body. And we have our new governor, who as a pro-choice Episcopalian, will never sign any anti-choice legislation which won’t, I assure you, come from our legislature.
Yoda says judge me by my size do you? That could be a new pro life slogan with a picture of an unborn baby on an ultrasound
Emperor Palpatine would support planned parenthood, Yoda would NOT!
~ From a star wars fan that’s been s fan since she was 7!
“I’ve gotten requests for donations from PP”
Good for you. I get request for donations from “Catholic Charities” (they still haven’t take my name off the roles after I self excommunicated in 1968), I send it back with – ah – appropriate commentary about subjugation of women, etc.
Cranky Catholic? where are you? Work your photoshop magic! I know you could do better than Yoda!
Hey Chris. How do you like our new gay/Jewish/pro-choice congressional rep? And even Catholic Jim Langevin voted against defunding PP. Bishop Tobin might not be happy about that. Funny, pro-choice Catholic Senator Jack Reed hasn’t been bounced yet?!
You just can’t get it though your head, can you CC? Nobody’s telling a woman what to do with HER body. a pre-born baby’s body is not “her” body. A baby has his/her own SEPARATE DNA, internal organs, etc. If a woman is carrying a baby BOY, that does not mean a woman has a PENIS. Just because a baby is IN your body does not mean it is “of” your body. You really need to educate yourself about pre-natal development.
a pre-born baby’s body is not “her” body
If abortion is criminalized, you certainly are telling a woman what she can do with her body.
A fetus is just as much a part of my body as anything else inside it. You and your fellow zealots have no right to it. And BTW, check out biology books which deal with fetal development, they describe “pre-born babies” as fetuses/zygotes/blastocysts etc.) - although I can’t speak for religious science texts (talk about an oxymoron!). They certainly don’t describe the “pre-born baby” as a “human being.”
You really need to educate yourself as to what is taught in those evil, secular science classes.
BTW, the whole fetus fetishing aspect of the anti-choice movement is – ah – a bit strange.
CC,
Point is the House voted to defund PP. Hardly matters who was in the minority, wouldn’t you say?
Maybe instead of donating you should demand that all those rich liberal and celebrity supporters of PP put their money where their mouths are.
You can start with Don Corleone,The Little Mermaid or Wonder Woman. Do you suppose Batman or Yoda will make a donation?
There were over 500 supporters outside my local PP last night. Which of course dwarfed the 75 person anti-choice march that was on the same street 2 weeks ago…
Pamela most abortions are done long before the gender of the fetus can even be determined… in the early stages of pregnancy the fetus is not much more than a symbiotic parasite leaching off its host organism. You know that ringworms have their own organs and DNA as well but if you remove them from their host they die… Funny no one cares if you treat ringworms… OMG he compared babies to ringworms!!! No I compared a fetus’s characteristics to a symbiotic parasite’s characteristics. Your culture of baby worship has a very narrow focus and an inherent self-righteousness that blinds you to any other people’s point of view.
Planned Parenthood is going to need all those private donations if things continue in this way. Better your money than mine.
Aw, I hope the Tim Gunn bobblehead one was done without his permission. I like him.
Make it work, pro-lifers!
an inherent self-righteousness that blinds you to any other people’s point of view
Same kind of culture that brought us the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials!
Mary, There is no actor or rich liberal that has as much money as the coporate intrests that support the republican party. The richest 1% of this country are ALL republicans.
Planned Parenthood is going to need all those private donations if things continue in this way. Better your money than mine
And what happens to those women who need the gynecological care apart from abortions? Will the anti-choicers be willing to fund the increased costs for the neighborhood health centers who will need to pick up all the PP clients? OH right, Mike Pence didn’t make provision for that. But the lord will provide, right?
The richest 1% of this country are ALL republicans
Whose female associates will be able to access abortions anywhere, at any time, if it becomes illegal!!! Ironic, don’t ya think! But they do cultivate the fetus worshipping zealots because that keeps them in the top 1%! Nice work if you can get it.
I get a big smile everytime abortion fans feel moved to comment on Jill’s site. I know that you must see pro-lifers as a threat to your existence (which is ironic to say the least). If you were so blissfully happy in your lives and felt so secure that your beloved politicians would never touch a hair on abortion’s sacred little head (irony intended), then why do you come here? Do we make you nervous and unhappy? Huh? Poor wittle thing. Here, let me play the world’s smallest violin for you.
Using Guttmachers under-reported and outdated stats, approx. 52 million children have been slaughtered in America since 1973.
Let’s see if we combine the witch trials plus the inquisition PLUS as a bonus the people who died during the crusades (mostly of disease) which took place over about 4 centuries, what do we get? 200,000.
So, abortionists, you should celebrate, in a mere 35 years you’ve outkilled ancient Christians at a rate of 260 to 1. Woohoo! Way to go!
Now, shall we add up all the atheist mass killings of the 20th century? Millions for Hitler, millions for Stalin, and ooh lots of millions for Mao. Wow, you atheists really know how to mow people down! You must be so proud.
Your culture of baby worship has a very narrow focus and an inherent self-righteousness that blinds you to any other people’s point of view.
Like Abe Lincon’s culture of slave worship had a very narrow focus and an inherent self righteousness that blinded him to the South’s point of view and the culture of Jew worship that blinded people to the Nazi’s view?
Same kind of culture that brought us the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials!
If you’ll notice, the Salem witch trials trials and the inquisition both killed lot’s of people, whereas our movement is all about saving lives, and both were completely based on people’s misguided, overzealous religious beliefs, while the pro-life movement is based off of science, logic, and basic morals. Unless you claim that it’s only Christians who are opposed to killing, in which case I would advise you to seek help.
CC and Biggz,
LOL
The three wealthiest people in the US Senate are Democrats. John Kerry, Herb Kohl, and Jay Rockefeller.
Hollywood is full of liberal millionaires
Oh, and let’s not forget the multimillionaire Democrat liberal Michael Moore, you know that guy that hates capitalism?
Did I mention George Soros, multibillionaire who funds liberal and Democrat causes?
Political contributions by Bill Gates: Democrat 54% Republican 45%
Cry me a river folks
CC, 6:32PM
Get real. Do you think you would ever see any of these wealthy women sitting in the local abortion clinic waiting rooms? Like the wealthy always have they will continue to seek abortions in exclusive and very private settings. Gee, I bet these men can afford all the call girls they want too. Life just ain’t fair is it CC?
Biggz, 6:30PM
Gee, I wonder if Oprah Winfrey, a big Obama supporter, would be able to scrape together a few pennies.
Long-time SW fan here also! Hmm, I wonder how George Lucas would feel about PP using his copyrighted characters in a public PP advertisement without his company, Lucasfilm’s, permission…
How interesting. BillionaireWarren Buffet, the third richest man on the planet, would have supported either Hillary or Obama. He just wanted a Democrat for president.
A few of the top PAC donors to Obama in 2008
University of California,
Goldman Sachs
Harvard University
Google
Citigroup Inc.
JP Morgan Chase & Co
Morgan Stanley
IBM Corp
General Electric
Stanford University
This is poverty row if I ever saw it!
CC, sorry but I have to correct you since you obviously struggle with common sense and above all, science. A preborn baby is NOT part of the woman’s body. I have never had a penis though I have had two in me. One was my huband’s penis that is in me whenever we have sexual intercourse. The other was my son’s whose penis was in my womb and grew there while I was pregnant with him. But neither of these penises though IN me were ever ever MY penises.
Secondly, my son’s heart though IN me was not MY heart. During labor they monitored my heartbeat and my son’s. In fact they checked my son’s heartbeat a lot during my pregnancy. His heart always beat much much faster than mine. How is it possible for one person to have two heartbeats beating at different rates?
This is really just common sense CC even if you scream “NO! NO! NO!” it is. I know WHY you don’t want to think about it though. Makes you feel awfully guilty even if you won’t admit it. I can tell just by how loud you scream and argue.
Too bad the timer ran out, so I have to post this as a new comment.
I just LOVE when abortionists use the inquisition/crusade tac to argue with pro-lifers.
Let’s see, the year is now 2011.
The last crusade was in 1270.
The Salem Witch trials, which covers the imprisonment and/or death of about 25 women, occurred from 1692-93. So that’s only a mere 318 years, which makes it so absolutely relevant to the discussion of abortion in 2011. Wow, abortionists, your rhetoric is almost as old as dinosaur poop. No wonder Kissling is so depressed! LOL!!!!!
CC: A fetus is just as much a part of my body as anything else inside it. You and your fellow zealots have no right to it.
Me: Then by your logic, you should call for all laws binding men to be responsible for that fetus both before, during and after birth.
Otherwise, you are full of garbage claiming that the unborn is purely your property you can dispose of where no have right to it but you.
If it is so your property alone, can’t make others even the fathers pay for your property even the moment the property leave your body alive.
A tidbit on the Salem cases: the clergy demanded it be put to a stop, on grounds they felt civil liberties were being violated in the process, and the line of rather like 100 guilty go free rather than one innocent be punished came out of that.
And another tidbit: the community realized it did wrong, recompensed families of those convicted and hung, and repented as whole publicly.
When will abortionists repent of millions of mass murder a year?
CC and her types got nothing on the Salem folks who while doing wrong at least had humility to own up to what they did wrong. I have yet to see same from CC.
But even if the richest 1% were all Republicans, CC’s rhetoric wouldn’t make sense. The internal logic is screwy.
Rich, educated, affluent republicans are all seeking to control poor stupid people, who are also republicans, by preventing them from accessing abortions–which is what the republicans want, anyway. Which is not so much controlling as it is working together. Thus, CC’s overall point is that being Republican brings people together across class distinctions to strive for common goals!
Somehow, I don’t think that’s where she was trying to go with this one…
“Your culture of baby worship has a very narrow focus and an inherent self-righteousness that blinds you to any other people’s point of view.”
Your culture of abortion worship has a very narrow focus and an inherent self-righteousness that blinds you to any other people’s point of view.
See anyone can use your own rhetoric!
Ironic what you accused others of, you are blatantly guilty yourself!
CC says:
You really need to educate yourself as to what is taught in those evil, secular science classes
Ha..you’re really amusing, CC. 4-5th grade science is where most of us LEARN about “fetal development”. I wasn’t home-schooled. I went to public school. ANY 3rd, 4th or 5th grader can tell you that what grows inside a HUMAN mother during pregnancy is called a BABY, CC. Get over it. Your smug little “superiority complex” gets tiring…probably even for YOU.
A fetus is just as much a part of my body as anything else inside it.
I don’t mean to be crude, but…by that logic, does that mean that any woman having vaginal intercourse with a man can now claim his penis as part of her body as long as it’s inside her?
Your body has your DNA. An unborn baby’s body has that baby’s DNA. Try to make this about religion all you want, but the science is on our side and all you’ve got is your little word games.
Now, shall we add up all the atheist mass killings of the 20th century? Millions for Hitler,
FYI, Hitler died a Catholic. He was never excommunicated. After he died, German and Spanish churches had requiem masses for him. So cross him off your list of “atheist” dictators. And speaking of dictators, Ceausescu was, like you folks, extremely anti-choice. As a result, Romania became filled with sick babies born to poor families who couldn’t take care of them. Many of them ended up in horribly abusive orphanages (like old Ireland). I guess this is the type of society that you guys look forward to when abortion is re-criminalized? Oh, happy days!!!!
his penis as part of her body as long as it’s inside her?
A penis doesn’t reside inside another’s body. I mean I had some fairly long “session” but it always came out!!!!
ANY 3rd, 4th or 5th grader can tell you that what grows inside a HUMAN mother during pregnancy is called a BABY
Science does not use that term. Check out the college texts.
who died during the crusades (mostly of disease)
Got any sources for that? The crusaders butchered Muslims and Jews (across Europe as they made their way to Palestine) all in the name of god. And you forgot the Inquisition. But no matter, these actions killed fully acutalized human beings and that’s why Jews are so offended by the comparison of abortion to the holocaust. And that’s why the majority of American Jews are pro-choice.
CC,
Try to get your facts straight. Ceausescu, a deranged dictator, was not “anti-choice”. After 5 children Romanian women could have all the abortions they wanted. He forced harsh austerity on his people then demanded that they produce children as his future subjects. It would be as if President Roosevelt had ordered every American woman, no matter how desperate her circumstances during the Great Depression, to bear a minimum of five children. Romanian women who were interviewed said they in fact wanted more children, but the harshness of their lives, imposed on them by Ceausecu, made childbearing and care too difficult. Buying a bottle of milk meant a trip to the black market, and a likely prison sentence.
Hitler was a rank amateur next to Soviet dictator Joe Stalin and Chinese dictator Mao tse-tung, both atheists who murdered their citizens by the millions. I understand Mao holds the honor as the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century. Both these dictators have been and are leftist icons.
A fetus is just as much a part of my body as anything else inside it.
To add to the discussion… all four of my children were Rh positive (they have a positive blood type). I, on the other hand, am Rh negative (negative blood type). I had to get shots while I was pregnant with them and after they were born to prevent my body from making antibodies against their blood and attacking them/future babies. Their blood type was decided at conception. When I was 10 weeks, 5 days pregnant with my third child, HIS placenta (the placenta is a part of the baby’s body, not he mother’s… has the baby’s DNA, blood, etc.) got a tear in it. I went to the hospital thinking I was having a miscarriage. The tear eventually healed and he is alive and well. The point is, I had to get that shot because HIS blood was what was coming out of me… not mine. How, exactly, could my babies have separate DNA and separate blood types if they are supposed to be a part of my body? While I was pregnant, my body didn’t even control my baby’s body. How could that be? They dreamed while in my womb, sometimes while I was awake. How? It’s the baby that lets off the HCG hormone to give a positive pregnancy test. It’s the baby that says to the mother’s body, “Hey, I’m here. Don’t kill me.” because otherwise the mother’s body would attack (unless you’re calling a child cancer or some other disease, why would the mother’s body attack the baby if the baby were a part of her body?). It’s even the baby that decides when to be born. When the water breaks (and that is actually the baby’s waters as well… we say “my water broke,” but that isn’t accurate), it is the baby’s body that has decided it. I could keep going…
Funny thing left out…war was harsh back then and alot of atrocitiies done by all sides of any given war. And another thing left out…Christians did not start the Crusades. Muslims did. The Crusades was a series of defensive wars against the invading Muslims who were attacking the Byzantine empire. And for centuries earlier attacking what is now Spain, France, etc., until Charles the Hammer Martel put a stop to that at Tours.
Christian Jews do often see a parallel between the Holocaust and abortion.
From the merriam-webster dictionary.
baby:
a (1) : an extremely young child; especially : infant (2) : an extremely young animal
child:
a : an unborn or recently born person (emphasis added)
Many of the scientific books DO say that at conception, a unique and individual human being begins and that human development begins, not at birth, but at conception.
FYI: the first Crusades were in response to Muslim invaders. It was a defensive move. I’m not saying the Crusaders were perfect, just that they didn’t start it. The Muslim invaders were going through and slaughtering, forcing conversions and/or forcing heavy taxes on the people that they didn’t kill and that didn’t convert, who were treated as sort of sub-human. I know that isn’t PC, but it is what it is.
Hitler might not have been excommunicated–and I’m not Catholic, so I’m not trying anything here–but he was NOT Catholic or any other kind of Christian. He was raised Catholic, but that doesn’t mean that his beliefs lined up. He was heavily into the Occult, however.
The PP defenders who troll tbis site are fine with the abuse of minors, sending sex slaves back to their masters, and rape as long as abortion can cover it up. Covering up sex abuse is ok, as long ad its PP and not the Big Mean Catholic Church. Their science is as outdated as their pro-abortion arguments. These are the zealots Frances Kissler is calling out and correcting.
I can see how those of a certain generation might still be scarred and confused enough to support the violence of abortion. But going so far as crusading for the corrupt sinking ship of PP after all that’s been revealed is beyond sad, and beyond dialog to me.
So, Friends, respond if you wish. For my part, the respect-o-meter has fallen so low I’m not addressing or feeding the trolls anymore.
Where’s Jabba the Hut?
Uh oh, I think CC and Biggz need to compare notes before they say anything. CC says that an unborn child is a part of his mother, but Biggz says that the unborn child is more like a parasite – an invader. Which one is it, pro-aborts?
“But no matter, these actions killed fully acutalized human beings and that’s why Jews are so offended by the comparison of abortion to the holocaust. And that’s why the majority of American Jews are pro-choice.”
Millions and millions of Polish people died in the Holocaust. Poland is one of the most pro-life countries in the world today and think the Holocaust-abortion comparison is appropriate. Since Poles were Holocaust victims, they are an important authority on mass killing and abortion, and it is therefore offensive to disagree with their anti-abortion views. Oh wait, I am guessing that logic only applies if the Holocaust victims are pro-choice.
Adair, I pointed out to CC before that I’m a Catholic of Polish descent, that 3 million of my brethren were murdered by Hitler, and that the comparison to abortion is appropriate. But CC ignored that, because when something reveals how flimsy and ridiculous her arguments are, she just pretends it never happened. Kind of like how all pro-aborts ignore the last 150 years of science and instead demand that our abortion laws be based on 4000 year old religious garbage.
Sorry, but pregnancy comes with too many risks to deny a woman control of her body during this particular time, regardless if it results in a dead fetus. Bobby Bambino is going to come in here and try to split hairs about “natural law” and function of the body, blah blah, but the fact is that our society respects physical sovereignty as a fundamental aspect of personhood–except when it comes to pregnant women. We don’t expect anybody else to take on such personal risk to ensure somebody else’s “right to life,” and it isn’t just to put women in a special class.
Say I’m morbidly obese and get pregnant. I will have an incredibly high risk of developing gestational diabetes and hypertensive disorders, like pre-eclampsia. Is it just to force me to continue a pregnancy I don’t want–one that could result in permanant damage or even death, even with modern medicine?
CC We are all sinners, but the biggest sin of all is to say that evil is not evil. You seem angry and hurt. I’m sorry that you have suffered at the hands of someone or the church. Unfortunately, all are sinners and there is only one born male who is without sin and totally worthy of your trust. He loves you unconditionally and completely. He knows that you are hurting. He wants you to only turn around as He is waiting to welcome you home.
Mary Ann, you are so right! It’s hard to not respond to their ignorant posts, but I’m going to take your advice because you are right.
For those of you who are pro-abortion, please take a few minutes to read “Humanae Vitae” by Pope Paul VI. It was written in 1968 and it will take you just a few minutes. It can be found in “google” quite easily. It is unbelievably prophetic…just look at the daily news.
Does anyone here think these are official photos?
there are all submitted by FB fans(it started when someone made the star wars one, then others thought it be cool) the bobble head is from the desk of the person who runs the FB fan page
Megan, if you don’t want to take on the risk of pregnancy then don’t have sex. Yep, I said it. Don’t have sex. Sex makes babies. It’s the normal, intended result of sexual intercourse. It’s what sex is for. God was simply generous enough to make it extremely pleasurable for us in the process.
It’s not contraception that people need, it’s self-control and some respect for the awesomeness of sex. It’s not a recreational pastime. It’s an amazing, life-giving act. If you’re unwilling to accept the LIFE, then you have no business having sex. Nobody wants to hear that, but that’s the truth.
Sorry Jennifer, but what makes YOU the arbiter on the PURPOSE of sex? Last time I checked, the average person wasn’t supposed to take in >4,000 calories a day, but some people eat fast food for lunch, breakfast and dinner. Yet if they need coronary bypass surgery, there aren’t moralizers standing over the hospital bed saying, “Sorry, you violated God’s intention for eating–which is to gain nutrition–so we aren’t going to spend the time or money treating you.”
Um, no. You can believe whatever you want about sex and its function, but moral elitism can’t play a role in medicine. If a woman needs an abortion, she doesn’t need anybody telling her she “shouldn’t have had sex in the first place.” Plus, your prescription is just impractical. Unhealthy people whose bodies can’t support healthy pregnancies are still going to have sex, whether YOU think it’s a selfish thing or not.
Laugh out loud funny Megan! You come on and tell us a hypothetical story about an obese pregnant woman and then when someone takes the bait you pounce on your lame little catnip straw mouse. Hilarious! Megs, you know what made my ovaries and uterus what they are? Nature, dahlin’, nature. Oh, gee, you mean my uterus isn’t for climbing trees? Oh, for that I might have to use my arms and legs, but then aren’t you dictating the purpose of my arms and legs? How dare you! Next you’ll be forcing my lungs to breath. How dare you presume to be the arbiter of what my lungs are for!
Lol! I hate to laugh at those less fortunate, but I just can’t help myself. Poor ole Megan, thinks her uterus is for storing walnuts.
New England Republicans (educated and affluent) might be fiscally conservative but they are socially liberal and find the anti-choice movement so – ah- declasse.
CC, your snobbery and elitism are hilarious. So very tacky. Not to mention declasse.
Your anti-Catholicism is still vile, though. Up to $16 now. (I don’t even feel like listing separate instances anymore).
CC, I answered this before on this site, and I know you don’t care, but Hitler never practiced his Catholic faith as an adult. He actually stated a number of times that he hated Christianity. He and his SS cronies were heavily into occult practices. As for his being excommunicated, all the German bishops gathered together at Fulda in (I think) 1937, excommunicated any German who joined the Nazi Party. Was the founder of the party perhaps included? What do you think?
Then, in the bunker, at the point of death, Hitler didn’t call on a priest to witness his marriage to Eva Braun, much less give him the last rites. Plus, since he committed suicide, he was ineligible for Catholic burial. Which he certainly didn’t get. If any Catholics said Requiem Masses for him, perhaps that’s because they knew his soul needed prayers.
Are you sure you studied history in college?
I actually didn’t see this one the first time, and it’s particularly egregious, so I’ll raise the total to $20.
Sorry Jennifer, but what makes YOU the arbiter on the PURPOSE of sex?
You know, it’s funny – every once in a while, a man tries to sue a woman because they had sex, she either told him she was infertile or said she’d have an abortion if she got pregnant, and, guess what, little Junior was born nine months later. Then Junior’s dad tries to claim that he shouldn’t have to pay child support because Junior’s mother lied to him. The universal attitude among judges is, “Are you serious? You had sex with a woman and you didn’t think it was forseeable that she could have a baby? It’s called assumption of the risk. Get your fool self out of my courtroom and be prepared to turn over a chunk of your income on a regular basis for eighteen years.”
Anof 10:57PM
Hardly. A bunch of fantasy figures just look silly and trivializing. Don’t you thing pictures of hundreds if not thousands of living breathing supporters would be more convincing?
The “stirrups stories” is … uniquely classy.
Hmm, to make it interesting, let me ask the Star Wars fans here something:
Based on the Jedi Code & the core philosophical beliefs of the Jedi, do you think they would of held a pro-life or pro-choice stance & why? (please try to use quotes from specific Jedi or Jedi teachings/texts when possible, to support your conclusion)
Rachael,
As much as I love Star Wars and the Jedi, I fear that, based on Obi Wan Kenobi alone, they would be pro-choice. Obi-Wan is a relativist, as is evidence in both episodes III and VI. Right before the battle with Vader, he tells him “Only a Sith deals in absolutes.” Gee, Obi-Wan, is that an absolute? Example of relativism #1.
Then there is Episode VI, right after Yoda dies. After Luke calls Obi-Wan out for lying to him, Obi Wan tells him “So what I told you was true- from a certain point of view… Luke, you’re going to find that the truths that we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.” Example #2.
Thus, with no moral grounding, we can hardly expect the Jedi to take a strong stance for life.
(*ahem*) I suppose it’s been too long since I trotted this out, given the strenuous (and, I’ll admit, dedicated) responses to CC, Biggz, etc., but:
I sincerely hope the “Jasper” who just posted isn’t the same Jasper who usually frequents this site and is in fact a troll trying to make pro-lifers look bad…
I’m certain that vulgar Jasper is not our own Jasper but a real creep who should be blocked. And that vile comment should be deleted. Please.
“Jasper” is just making himself look bad.
Marauder, I’m sure he is. Virtually no pro-lifers, especially on Jill’s site, call women sluts. That’s just a pro-abortion tactic meant to make us look anti-woman.
I’m relieved in a way that the trolls just keep up the same tired rhetoric, basically:
“We don’t want to control our actions. So just let us kill the babies we don’t want. We’re going to kill them anyway and so you should pay your taxes to help us murder pre-born Americans.”
That’s basically their whole philosophy.
Hey trolls, try this on for size: You don’t have the right to kill children. I don’t care about your story or your hypothetical situations. Your children have more right to live than you have fake right to kill them. Don’t want to parent? Then leave them for someone else. I would love to adopt.
To add to that, I think many pro-lifers are reluctant to say, “I don’t care about your story, it’s all about your child for the next few months.” That’s the hard truth, but we are conditioned by the pro-abortion advocates to avoid saying it. If we are so blunt, naturally they jump on us and declare that we put the child ahead of the mother.
They can’t bring themselves to see the equality of the child and mother. Since the ERA was defeated in 1972, the abortion advocates are deathly afraid of the word equality. They had their feminist fingers burnt and even after 40 years, they just can’t say the word. They couldn’t achieve equality with men in the workplace, so they latched onto bullying the pre-born. At least, they think, they have power over someone. (Kind of like an abused kid who beats the dog because he’s last in line.)
Come on, CC, say it with me: EQUALITY.
So when did you come to such a hard-and-fast decision about the “purpose” of sex, ninek? While you were lying on the operating room table? Afterward? It’s so nice that you’ve made the decision, for everyone, that sex should be a pregnancy contract. The funny thing is, I doubt somebody harangued you about “God’s intended purpose” for eating the last time you popped a piece of chocolate in your mouth. It must be so.much.more.fun to moralize about other people’s sex lives.
“If we are so blunt, naturally they jump on us and declare that we put the child ahead of the mother.”
Uh, duh. How else can you slice it? Where’s the “equality” in forcing someone to put their body through such incredible stress to protect a fetus’ “right to life”?
So Megan, (who replied as if on cue!) how many children do you kill when you eat too much? How many pre-born children die because you eat food? None.
You are suffering from, among other things, faulty logic. My advice to you is to take a math class AND it looks like you need a little tutoring in basic biology. Good luck with that!
Where is the equality in dismembering your child so you can pretend you never got pregnant? When you were on the operating table, were you chuckling to yourself about how you were sticking it to the pro-lifers? I think not.
For the rest of you pro-choice folks who read the comments here at Jill’s blog:
When male and female mammals have sex, the female can become pregnant. I know that’s a new concept to some of you, but don’t worry, you’ll figure it out. When a couple has sex, conceives a child, and then one or both of them decide they don’t want the child to finish developing naturally, that’s too bad. The child has a right to it’s own life. You, by contrast, have absolutely NO right to kill him or her, or them. There is no such thing as unicorns, centaurs, Smurfs, or abortion rights.
Okay, I’m replying to some of the comments (not all) based on my impression of them. If I got the wrong impression, please CLEARLY tell me where I went wrong because this is my reply based on what I’ve read so far:
Megan you don’t want anyone to “tell you what to do with your body” however…
The fact of the matter is in healthy adult human beings conception of another human being is the natural course of sexual intercourse. There are fluctuations in a woman’s fertility (times she’s most fertile and times she’s least fertile) but the fact of the matter is, if sexual intercourse didn’t equal baby then why the heck would anyone be concerned about getting pregnant (either wanting to get pregnant or wanting to avoid pregnancy) when they have sexual intercourse?
It’s obvious that a woman’s ovaries and uterus are made for pregnancy. They serve very little other purpose (I have as yet to see an ovary that can cook and clean a house). Same with men’s sperm. Generally it’s for procreation.
This is basic sexual biology folks, it’s not some pop quiz answers we pro-lifers came up with one day, it’s been in extistence before Biblical times (probably since the dawn of human beings–we had to reproduce somehow, right?) Humans may not have always known the names of the sexual organs but in general it has been common knowledge that sexual intercourse can (and sometimes does) equal pregnancy.
Like I said, I’m reading these comments and Megan I’m astounded you’re acting like we’re telling you something off-the-wall. Telling you to avoid sexual intercourse to avoid pregnancy isn’t going against anything it’s recognizing that sexual organs play a role in pregnancy. We’re not telling you to use your sexual organs to swing from a chandelier, we’re recognizing that it’s a main function of sexual organs to play a role in a pregnancy happening.
You want to do what you want with your sexual organs, then don’t be shocked if you come up pregnant. That’s the natural order of things. We say don’t have sex if you don’t want to get pregnant because that’s the only 100 percent sure fire way of avoiding pregnancy. Contraception can fail. Shoot, sometimes abortions fail, but avoiding sexual intercourse hasn’t proven faulty in avoiding pregnancy. When it does, then I guess we’ll have to figure out something else.
But unless sperm find away to fly through the air on their own and into a woman’s body (while she’s clothed, by the way) then I guess a person can be pretty certain that avoiding sexual intercourse/activity will mean they won’t get pregnant.
P.S. Like I’ve stated before, I’m definitely pro-life, I don’t think abortion is a good way of handling an unwanted pregnancy when they are other, more healthy, loving and life giving ways…but I put what I put about sometimes (I know, not often) abortions failing for the sake of argument not to encourage more abortions.
Megan, do you really not understand the basic fact that sex makes babies?? If you do, then you have no excuse for engaging in sex if you’re unwilling to recognize the life of the child created. Yes, Megan, the baby in the womb has the right to live. Human reproduction requires the baby to dwell in the womb for a set amount of time, but that fact does not negate the baby’s right to live and be born. And for goodness sake, stop with all the hyped up melodrama about the catastrophic stress and risk of pregnancy! If that’s your best argument for killing a child, then you’re out of luck.
Ever notice that it’s always the people with no class going on and on about how classy and educated they are. I say this as a hyper educated, affluent east coaster who doesn’t think my region of birth bestowed some halo of intelligence upon me. (I’m too classy for these comments, too classy for these comments, all these ignorant anti-choicers! I’m from New England, you know what I mean, so we’re classy, educated, and affluent…yeah!). Way to go, classy.
Biggz, that statement is so ludicrous it hardly deserves response, but on the off chance you actually believe your drivel, let me lay it out for you. The top 1% of earners in this country earned just above 250K a year. So that puts pretty much every person of moderate importance in Hollywood in that category. Those poor confused Republicans wander into the DNC every year and shell out an awful lot of money in support of Democrats. Someone should remind them that they’re Republicans.
Jennifer says:
February 22, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Megan, if you don’t want to take on the risk of pregnancy then don’t have sex. Yep, I said it. Don’t have sex. Sex makes babies. It’s the normal, intended result of sexual intercourse. It’s what sex is for. God was simply generous enough to make it extremely pleasurable for us in the process.
It’s not contraception that people need, it’s self-control and some respect for the awesomeness of sex. It’s not a recreational pastime. It’s an amazing, life-giving act. If you’re unwilling to accept the LIFE, then you have no business having sex. Nobody wants to hear that, but that’s the truth.
AWESOME!!!!!! 10 points!!!
I hope you leave Jasper’s comment. Shows exactly how much pro-aborts hate women. But we already knew that.
There was a pro-abort on this site who wished my son death. My born, 4 year old “we can all agree he is human” son. But it just proves my point. If pro-aborts see no problem killing kids in the womb they will see no problem killing kids (or anyone) out of the womb.
Ninek wrote:
There is no such thing as unicorns, centaurs, Smurfs, or abortion rights.
See? Now, why can’t *I* write pithy, dead-on, right-between-the-eyes comments like that? That would make a classy bumper-sticker, actually… :)
Some random responses:
New England Republicans (educated and affluent) might be fiscally conservative but they are socially liberal and find the anti-choice movement so – ah- declasse.
You’re right, they don’t want Cecelia or Taylor looking chubby for their deb pictures.
I am thinking that those who say that a fetus is merely part of a woman’s body have never carried a child to term. To those who have, Im sure you remember when you felt the baby kick. Does your heart, liver, or other internal organ kick you? And how can something that is just an extension of a woman’s body have unique DNA and fingerprints?
Even a person with an elementary knowledge of biology knows that a fetus is NOT a parasite, as a parasite eventually weakens or kills its host. During pregnancy many women feel tired or even ill, but a healthy pregnancy will not kill the mother.
I am not Catholic, but I am also tired of hearing about Hitler being a devout Catholic. The Nazis were deeply into the occult, especially Asatru, the worship of the pre-Christian Nordic gods such as Thor, Odin, Freya, etc. Even today many white supremacists and neo-Nazi types are into Asatru (of course, not all people who worship these gods are racist). And Hitler was also a vegetarian. Does that mean all vegetarians are evil people? Of course not!
Also, as for the Crusades and the Inquisition, they were both terrible things, no one can deny that. However, anti-Christian types never mention how many Christians were killed by the Romans during the pagan era. The exact number will never be known but it was at least in the high thousands. Here’s an interesting article about the subject: http://www.unrv.com/culture/christian-persecution.php . And of course, Christians are being persecuted today, particularly in Muslim countries, but it is not politically correct to say so. After all, Christians are always the bad guys, right?
Alice-LOL @ the Daleks. CC: whose ‘body part’ would a DNA test show an unborn baby to be?
LTC Blake: Radar, I’m a father again!
CPL O’Reilly: Yes sir… they’ve figured out what causes that.
Ninek-haven’t you heard the new prochoice meme? Sex doesn’tcause babies. BC failure does. Giggle.
“New England Republicans (educated and affluent) might be fiscally conservative but they are socially liberal”
Of course; New England Republicans are a bunch of rich white people who agree with Margaret Sanger about non-whites being human weeds who need to be exterminated. And they can barely speak English. They’re just way too cool for the rest of us.
To clarify Nazi religious views – while many members of the SS and Hitler’s inner circle personally endorsed Asatru, the official Nazi party stance endorsed “Positive Christianity”. Most theologians dismiss Positive Christianity as seriously perverted at best. Tenets included:
– Rejecting the Old Testament
– Claiming Christ was “Aryan” and not Jewish
- Striving to unify all protestant churches as political tools of national identity, which included rejecting Roman Catholicism
Claiming Hitler was a Roman Catholic, simply because he was born into the Church, is blatantly ignorant.
Claiming Hitler was a Roman Catholic, simply because he was born into the Church, is blatantly ignorant.
The head of the RI Planned Parenthood, who was born into the Catholic Church, was excommunicated. Why wasn’t Hitler? And correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Francisco Franco buried with full Catholic rites? It’s interesting that Pope Pious the XII’s sainthood seems to have stalled. Whoopsie. And Hitler was “pro-life” – “While abortion was illegal in pre-Hitler Germany, he took it to new depths of enforcement, requiring all doctors to report to the government the circumstances of all miscarriages.”
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/murphy_19_2.html
And BTW, Sanger never said that non whites should be exterminated. That’s just more anti-choice propaganda. She worked closely with WEB Dubois and other black leaders. She felt strongly that unhealthy, poor folks should limit their families because if they didn’t they’d get poorer and less healthy. That was the reality in her day. She was one of the first to realize that as women got older, their chances of having a healthy baby diminished. She realized that poor women should not be consigned to a life of being brood sows which is the hope and dream of the pro-life movement. At present, we have good support services (although with budget cutting not so much) for the disabled. In the early 20th century, the prospects for a disabled baby were abysmal. Sanger allowed us to control our fertility. She is a hero.
If you’re unwilling to accept the LIFE, then you have no business having sex. Nobody wants to hear that, but that’s the truth
Let’s hear it for medieval views on the woman as incubators for the sacred sperm! Here’s the thing. Sex is a bodily function and it can be lots of fun. I guess according to the above comment, womens’ breasts are just for milk for babies and those women, who don’t nurse, are going to hell. And those gals who expose their sacred mammaries, for art’s sake of course, are on the road to perdition. But I do love these kinds of comments as they just underscore the bizarre mindset of the fetus worshippers who really do seem to be quite the cult. Thankfully, I live in an area of the country where it is – hate to say it – considered quite de-classe.
CC: Yesterday I added you to my list of people I’m praying for. I keep it on my wall. Your name is in pink.
Let’s hear it for medieval views on the woman as incubators for the sacred sperm!
Pointing out the natural conclusion of sexual intercourse/activity [pregnancy] is hardly a medieval concept, CC.
Here’s the thing. Sex is a bodily function and it can be lots of fun.
You make sexual intercourse sound like a bowel movement or urination rather than a unification between a husband and wife, reaffirmation of the wedding vows and possible procreation. It’s way more than just a “bodily function”. Sexual intercourse/activity being fun and pleasurable is not excuse to treat it with such a casual attitude.
I guess according to the above comment, womens’ breasts are just for milk for babies and those women, who don’t nurse, are going to hell
I didn’t know this topic was on women’s breasts or breast feeding. As far as I know, that hasn’t come into question on this particular topic until you brought it up.
Luckily for her, CC’s mother was a fetus-worshipping cultist.
Sanger never said what? Please don’t type things like that, I almost spit my tea onto my keyboard I was laughing so hard. Honey, please do yourself a favor and read Sanger’s OWN writing, not on Wikipedia, but in one of those book things made of pieces of paper with writing on them.
Since CC brought it up, isn’t it strange how popular breast enhancement is these days? So let’s add this up: big, fake boobs, tiny hips, and a flat stomach. That’s the “beauty standard” coming out of the entertainment and fashion industries. Something about that standard seems, oh I don’t know, a little anti-female. But hey, I’m just some fetus worshipping cultist from the bible belt, lol!
Remember – when we say we stand with Planned Parenthood – we stand for the purposeful ending of a human life before birth. That can include suction abortion, when the cannula is forced up, thru the cervix, vacuum machine turned on, until the little baby is chopped up into pieces into a jar. That jar has to be emptied, and the parts of the now deceased human fetus (young human before birth), is examined to be sure that they have gotten every last piece, including head, feet, hands, legs arms, torso and insides of the human fetus. And then they continue to be sure the placenta is removed too.
In a ‘medical abortion’ they give the young woman her first pill, which will have the body not deal with progesterone (the natural hormone) properly, which the placenta needs to function. Without the placenta, the baby (human fetus) dies – a little like if I decide to take the oxygen out of the air (we can’t live, and will cause death). Then the second pill causes the placenta to come away from the uterine wall and try to expel that and the dead baby from the woman’s body.
All the while, she is cramping, bleeding, sometimes vomiting and in some cases – including the clinical trials – dying. There are many women who have had to have transfusions due to this ‘medicine.’
And I have not even gotten to the parts where the late term abortion takes place, ripping body parts from the baby … one by one.
just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing that Planned Parenthood supports. And that supporters of planned parenthood knows they get the full package.
Since CC wants to play the Hitler card, let’s not supress what is true- Hitler was an admirer of Margaret Sanger.
http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2007/09/if-margaret-sanger-and-adolph-hitler.html
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, expressed a similar objective about eliminating US colored people in a letter she wrote only months after Hitler’s invasion of Poland: “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
Let’s hear it for medieval views on the woman as incubators for the sacred sperm!
I wasn’t aware that women incubated “sperm” but rather, unborn human beings resulting from the union of said “sacred sperm” and a “sacred egg.” Heh.
Whatever one thinks of (nutty) Sanger, it doesn’t mean defending PP now.
Unless abuse of minors, rape coverup, and sex slave enabling are really ok with you. Work to fix the organization you support, or build a new one.
Otherwise you’re no better than a Catholic bishop who couldn’t admit his own wrongdoing in covering for abuse and sending abusers back into the public without reporting them.
Catholic faithful and hierarchy don’t defend wrong actions, and they’re working to clean things up, and put protection policies and programs in place. By contrast, PP and their supporters are still playing defense while more and more allegations and scandals come to light.
Kel, so true. CC says we have medieval views yet she can’t understand that we know a lot more about the science of reproduction in this day and age. Hey CC, did you know the baby moves long before “quickening”? Did you know its the dad who determines the gender of the baby? I mean, just wondering, you seem to be stuck in a Henry VIII frame of mind.
Punisher, preach it! Margaret Sanger invited the man who would become HITLER’S ADVISOR ON EUGENICS to the US to tour her birth control league organization (Planned Parenthood) So CC, guess you in a way defending Hitler every time you open your mouth to defend Sanger and abortion.
I guess according to the above comment, womens’ breasts are just for milk for babies and those women, who don’t nurse, are going to hell. And those gals who expose their sacred mammaries, for art’s sake of course, are on the road to perdition. But I do love these kinds of comments as they just underscore the bizarre mindset of the fetus worshippers who really do seem to be quite the cult.
Wow, you got all that from the comment, “If you’re unwilling to accept the LIFE, then you have no business having sex. Nobody wants to hear that, but that’s the truth”?? LOL! Astonishing feat of brilliance, no doubt.
“De-classe” is your totally fave word now, huh? Of course, it’s even better when prefaced with “Shall we way – ah – declasse.” It reminds me of Robin Williams as the genie in Aladdin every time. I can totally picture the elitist manner in which it’s stated. Let me just say that I’d guess most of us here don’t really give a rat’s behind if opposing the slaughter of unborn children is considered oh-so “de-classe.” The fact that you seem to think we care that we’re not “cool” (like you, I assume) is pretty amusing. :D
Let’s hear it for medieval views on the woman as incubators for the sacred sperm!
Let’s hear it for scientifically illiterate pro-aborts! Here you go, little troll *hands over a biology textbook*. Now, scurry on back to your little cave and read it. Come back and debate us again once you’re a little more educated ;)
“Let’s hear it for scientifically illiterate pro-aborts! Here you go, little troll *hands over a biology textbook*.”
That’s very cute, but biology doesn’t provide a guide for us when two (potential) sets of rights are in contention.
You can also hype up the risks associated with abortion, but pregnancy is a far, far riskier process. Making pregnancy seem like a walk in the park doesn’t do much to advance your argument; it actually makes you seem pretty callous and unreasonable.
http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/PregComplications.htm
Of course pregnancy can have complicatons. However, the vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with pregnancy complications, and medicine has advanced to the point where it’s rare for women in America to die in childbirth or due to pregnancy complications. It’s not as rare in some other countries, but if the medical systems over there aren’t up to snuff with childbirth, they’re probably not exactly gold standards of risk-free cleanliness with abortion, either.
Punisher, preach it! Margaret Sanger invited the man who would become HITLER’S ADVISOR ON EUGENICS to the US to tour her birth control league organization (Planned Parenthood)
Yep. Margaret Sanger may have never officially aligned herself with Hitler, but they had a lot of friends and colleagues in common. In Sanger’s mind, the problem with Hitler was that he was killing “inferiors” who had already been born. If he hadn’t killed anyone and just had his favorite “inferiors” forcibly sterilized so there would be no more Jews, Gypsys, disabled people, et cetera within a few generations, Margaret would have been right on board.
Lol, why are all the characters male?!? Maybe PP is showing the abusive boyfriends, pimps, etc. that usually are responsible for “helping” women make that “choice”? I’m sure all of them are distraught over PP getting defunded. They wouldn’t have any way to get rid of that little inconvenience without PP!
Riley,
Good point. Plus, Bobba Fett was one of the bad guys!
“Of course pregnancy can have complicatons. However, the vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with pregnancy complications, and medicine has advanced to the point where it’s rare for women in America to die in childbirth or due to pregnancy complications.”
That’s not the point. Pregnancy is too physically demanding to force someone into it regardless of the circumstances. It doesn’t matter whether a woman has 15 concurrent sexual partners or has been married for 15 years: the fact that pregnancy carries any health risk is grounds for making the process optional.
i am so tired of all the i stand with pp posts on my facebook wall , so today i posted my own (i stand with) post .
I STAND WITH JOHN WAYNE GACY ! he brought joy and happiness to countless children and adults alike, he was a good neighbor and community activist. he voluntarily entertain hospitalized children. i mean i know he tortured and killed those boys, but look at all the good he did, and all the joy and happiness brought into the world.
unfortunately it seems not to many people seemed to get it . that or they decided it was safer to just ignore me .
kim jacobson,
That’s pretty clever. I’m sure they are all 22 years old and will have to google John Wayne Gacy’s name to figure it out. I want to create my own slogans, like, ”I stand because I was born” or, ”I (can’t) stand Planned Parenthood”
Kim Jacobson, I love it! I would use it only all my pro-choice friends deleted me from their friends. Funny how I am not at all upset when others state their pro-choice views but my pro-choice friends were so upset that I state my pro-life ones.
For some reason my computer won’t let me copy and paste at the moment. But in response to Megan’s “Pregnancy is too physically demanding…” paragraph:
Megan,
So, anything “too” or even just physically demanding we should avoid? If women avoided pregnancy simply because it was physically (or in your view “too physically”) demanding there would be very few to no humans on this Earth. It’s how we reproduce (well unless there’s test tube babies coming next or men suddenly start being pregnant like Arnold S.’s character in “Junior”)
Yes, there are physical demands on a woman who is pregnant. It stands to reason–the pregnant woman is carrying another human being inside of her. The body makes a tremendous effort to provide for the new human being. However, it’s NOT an impossible feat.
Your words would suggest that it’s so horribly taxing that there’s no way women could do it. Yet, whether a woman believes it or not grace and a special strength is provided for the woman.
Our bodies are designed for pregnancy/birth–reproduction of the human species. It’s something are bodies prepare for pretty much since puberty. Women are tougher than you and even ourselves give ourselves credit for.
Granted, there are women who have a harder time with pregnancy than others, but something being hard is not a good excuse for ending the life of the pre-born human being. (Math was hard for me, but that doesn’t mean I just gave up. It meant I took the extra steps necessarily to get the help I needed and to keep going–now obviously academics and pregnancy aren’t the same thing, but the concepts in terms of keep going because it’s another life and it’s not just about oneself, it’s about the pre-born human life in question as well).
Life is hard. There are emotional/physical/spiritual/mental/psychological taxing things in the world–but you’re doing women a huge disservice. People can do some pretty great things when they give themselves the opportunity to prove to themselves they can do it.
I wasn’t sure how well I’d get through pregnancy and birth, I was nervous about it, but I still managed and I still got through the pregnancy and birth–and I’m GLAD I did!
It’s not about physical tasks, it’s about thinking and loving outside of one’s self. The willingness to be self-GIVING rather than self-ISH.
The defunding of Planned Parenthood has absolutely nothing to do with “impending financial disaster,” it is a purely ideological, partisan attack.
It’s dishonesty such as this that discredits the pro-life movement. At least be straightforward and admit your intentions instead of trying to hide behind falsities.
CJ,
Dishonesty? Nothing to do with financial disaster? You act like PP is the only recipient of government funds that will have to make do with less in these economic times. Have you checked the government’s credit card lately? They’re severely over their limit. Maybe Suze Orman could give Planned Parenthood some budgeting advice. She seems to help a lot of people regardless of their ideology.
I stand with Planned Parenthood. I stand with an organization that cares for the health of women in this country, regardless of their ability to pay. I stand with Planned Parenthood and I know that 97% of its services are not abortion-related. I stand with Planned Parenthood because it is the only way some women have access to the medical care and support they need. I stand with an organization that reduces the number of abortions by providing sex education and birth control.
Kelly Planned Parenthood does not provide services for free. They make customers pay and if they can’t they have them fill out forms so that they can charge US taxpayers for the service. BTW, 52% of women getting abortions were using birth control when they got pregnant so the idea that birth control lowers abortions is a myth.
You must be a racist, huh Kelly? The founder of PP was a racist and PP consistently targets minority neighborhoods so by standing with them I will acknowledge your unspoken racial intolerance.
Kelly, you’ve fallen for the ole “abortion is only 3% of our services!” lie. It’s called bundling, where a pregnant mother getting an abortion gets counted for multiple services: pregnancy test, “counseling”, ultrasound, and so on…and her child’s life-ending “service” is counted as 1 out of any number that tragic day.
Ask yourself this: why–if abortion is such a small percentage of what they do–don’t they just stop doing abortions if their federal funding is so precious to them? If they care about women’s health so much, why do we see them referring them to county health centers when they can’t afford PP’s prices? With over 300,000 defenseless human beings dismembered yearly at PP facilities, frankly I don’t care what else they do.
As to your ‘reducing abortions’ remark: try again, it’s not their goal (heard of Abby Johnson?)
Finally, to debunk the “women will have no where else to go!” Women can go to any of thousands of FQHC‘s.