I think having a keg party to raise money for an abortion is one of the most brilliant ideas I’ve ever heard and I’m so going to tell all my patients who need money for their procedure about it!
~ About a Girl, Abortioneers, February 16
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sorry but thats just stupid. why i thought PP had all this money? what about the taxpaxers? Not good enough for you? a keg party?
Need abortion=keg party=a bunch of people having unexpected/unprotected drunk sex=need abortion=keg party=…you know, I’m beginning to think pro-abortionists really *don’t* know what causes these unexpected bouts of pregnancy. Maybe they really do believe wandering bands of fetuses seek out poor, unexpecting women in the dead of night and just make themselves comfortable in an unoccupied womb.
You have NOT come a long way, baby.
I am convinced that until civil rights for the unborn is a mandate, our moral decline will continue in this country. If the unborn were protected, it would force the population who participate in premarital sex to take the necessary precautions to not get pregnant. Back in the 1950’s the only available form of birth control was the condom. It prevented both pregnancy and disease. In many states couples were not allowed to marry if they had a “venereal disease” until that disease was treated and cured. We have the abilitiy to identify fathers and hold them accountable.
Janet, you mean *gasp* ask people to behave like they did in the 50’s?? With all that *shudder* personal responsiblity, chastity, and delayed sexual pleasure? But, but, but, people *like* sex, they *want* sex, and as everyone from today’s ‘enlightened’ time period knows the *most* important part of life is obtaining everything someone wants! All that self-restraint *really* gets in the way of self-gratification. How troglodyte of you to suggest people should hold anything above the want to instantly gratify their every desire! ;)
Jespren, excellent comment.
Beware of the fetus lurking in your closet, ready to pounce into your womb.
Oh magical fetus, where did you come from?
I went to bed drunk, he went to bed dumb,
I had a few beers, we rolled in the sack
I thought I put the lock on the door
But God gave you to me to settle the score
Now I am hungover and pregnant
No worries, RU486, will make you gone in an instant.
Oh my. A keg party to raise money for their abortion?
And did anyone notice that when the author listed some of the most creative ways to get money for an abortion… a church collection was on the list. That just makes me sick inside. How could any church give money to a girl for her abortion? What has this world come to?
Anyone else remember that article about a party to raise money for an abortion? I can’t remember where I read it. Sad. Sad. Sad.
Why don’t the clinics do the abortions for free?
How sad – this gal may one day look back and shudder at the thought of raising money to kill pre-born humans. Then again, hopefully she will and then come over to our side and the truth will set her free.
Abort-A-Girl’s idea says the same thing to me that all those abortion funds do: It doesn’t matter how desperate or poor the woman is, the abortionist still has to get his benjamins out of the deal.
Really puts paid to the myth that pro-aborts actually care about women.
Is this idea part of PP’s “safe sex” educational program?
Sydney,
Your comment “Why don’t the abortion clinics do it for free?” may be a little too close to reality. Obama wants free contraception, so … that could be next.
I missed a line:
Oh magical fetus, where did you come from?
I went to bed drunk, he went to bed dumb,
I gave him a condom, he gave me no flack
I had a few beers, we rolled in the sack
I thought I put the lock on the door
But God gave you to me to settle the score
Now I am hungover and pregnant
No worries, RU486, will make you gone in an instant
oh but if PP cared about women as much as they claim to then why arent all abortions free?
Depraved.
Fight fire with fire.
Throw a “Keg for Life” party. The hard-core drinkers will show up regardless of the cause.
And probably not even remember it.
Frebus, you are right. I know they want free birth control…courtesy of tax payers. Free abortions would make them salivate too.
I just think, look at all the medical services CPC’s can offer…social services also. And material goods they provide. FREE!
Why can’t abortion clinics do the same if they really care about women? Why should a woman have to throw a drunken party at her home, have it trashed, just to obtain an abortion? If they care so deeply about access to “reproductive services” then do it for FREE!
Ahhh… here is the story I was thinking of. Hopefully it will let me post this link.
abortion party…
http://www.alternet.org/sex/141140/my_first_abortion_party/
If Planned Parenthood offered free abortion, you guys would be the first to scream that the taxpayers subsidies to the organization were just being used to underwrite free abortions. Instead, they charge what they cost, and the taxpayers don’t have to contribute to abortion services.
is the answer to womens healthcare getting them wasted too?
Well..I guess she WOULD think a keg party was “one of the most brilliant ideas I’ve ever heard”.
That’s probably how she got pregnant in the first place.
Alcohol consumption leads to NOTHING good.
Except when they ARE using taxpayer subsidies to underwrite free abortions. Whups!
http://lufkindailynews.com/news/local/article_2ca03240-5506-11e1-938b-001871e3ce6c.html
lets get trashed and make more unwanted babies after a night of slammin em down so hard we dont even remember who the heck we are layin up in the bed with. oooooh and more date rapes. splendid.
This is a horrible idea. Keggers promote binge drinking and other forms of alcohol abuse.
Hal, I know liberals in general have a lot of difficulty in general differentiating between ‘free’ and ‘tax payer provided’ so let me give you a really easy measure, if fees exchange hands, regardless of whose hands, the service is not ‘free’, if no fees exchange hands, the service is free. For instance when a hospital organizes a free transplant that means: doctor donates their time, does not get paid for his services, hospital donates the room and equipment, does not get paid for the use, nurses donate their time, do not get paid for their services, anasetheologist donates their time, does not get paid for his services, hospital/drug company/charity donates the meds, does not get paid for their donation.
When PP does a ‘free’ abortion: the doctor gets paid, the nurse gets paid, the facility gets it’s usage fee, the medication gets paid for…just not by the patient. When we ask ‘if Pp cares so much why don’t they do free abortions for those needy women?’ we are not refering to them finding someone else to pay for it. We are asking why they do not DONATE their time and services, like CPC workers do, like pro-life OBs will sometimes do, like some midwives do, like some doulas do. (Like some lactation consultants do, like some chiropractors do, like some non-reproductive related doctors do, like some carpenters do etc etc etc)
If person A goes to organization X and says ‘i need your service but I can’t pay you’ and organization X says ‘well, here are some ways to get outside help to afford us, but we won’t help you unless you can pay’ then 100% of the time you can rightly say organization X cares more about profits than making sure people have their services. If person A goes to organization B and says ‘i need your service but I can’t pay you’ and organization B says ‘okay, we’ll work around payment, take you as a charity case/tax write off/public service/p.r. case’ you can rightly say that organization B cares more about their services being had then they do their bottom line. Now there isn’t anything wrong with either one. Businesses aren’t required to function as charities and even charities can’t help everyone. But when a company (PP) makes their p.r. bones by shouting how much they care about their services being availible to those in need, and then turn around and act like our aforementioned organization X not B, they are lying, dishonest, and don’t deserve one ounce of the positive p.r. they get by tooting their own horn.
If PP came out and said ‘look, we’re in this to make money, we provide a legal service, get off our backs’, their would be a whole lot less mud to sling their way.
We shouldn’t be too hard on her for calling this a brilliant idea. After all, we must remember that that brilliant ideas are very rarely seen in the abortion industry. So they basically have to take what they can get.
Yes, joan, although you missed a key component. Keggers promoting alcohol abuse and killing human life in the womb.
It’s been awhile since I’ve been to a keg party, but I’m not sure they necessarily lead to either alcohol abuse or abortion. I recall having a beer or two with friends.
well then hal…good news then. you arent an alcoholic. ive seen people guzzle at keg parties ( but its been a while for me too)
Hi Janet@ 9:24,
I haven’t been around much until recently, but it looks like there are two “Janets” here today. Are you the same Janet who used to put an initial after your name? If so, could you do that, or else I could change my “name” just to avoid confusion? Thanks.
By the way, I love your comment and Jespren’s.
Alcohol abuse is most likely a precursor to many abortions. Why don’t we see more emphasis on this? Abstaining from alcohol can be a good form of birth control (and it’s FREE!) and therefore reduce abortions.
Janet, because alcohol abuse and the events that lead up to abortion are not the point. The point is more how you respond to the life that was created rather than the circumstance leading up to conception.
Yes, it would be good to ask how so many unexpected pregnancies occur, and alcohol certainly plays a role. However, in asking ourselves how we reduce abortions, we are dealing with much larger societal issues than the ambiguous alcohol issue.
Classy. Reminds me of this:
http://moronicprochoicequotes.blogspot.com/2012/01/fetus-cookies-and-abortion-parties.html
Abortion Keggers are probably the best thing to come down the pike for abortionists, because not only do they pull together the funds for today’s abortion, but they ensure that there will be more drunken one-night-stands resulting in more abortions that must be subsidized through keggers.
It’s sheer genius!
LibertyBelle,
“The point” of what?
I was only making an observation relative to alcohol use and abortion. You’re reinforcing my observation that reducing alcohol abuse appears to be ignored in the process of “reducing abortion”, no? I’m not sure I understand what you mean by the “the ambiguous alcohol issue”. What am I missing ?
“Janet, you mean *gasp* ask people to behave like they did in the 50?s??” – why there? Why not the 20’s? How about the 1880’s? I know, let’s try the 1750’s. Let’s go back to the primordial swamp – purity and perfection!
Quiet, Reality. Make-out spots didn’t exist until Al Gore invented Facebook, and don’t you tell them otherwise.
Ah, that makes sense.
And humans only ever desired sex for purely procreative purposes until the pill was invented, right?
And STDs didn’t exist until women burned their bras.
Reality, no many have always wanted to have sex for other than procreative services, but before readily availible contraceptives people, the majority of people, had to practice self-restraint and weigh that want against the likely outcomes. And you know what, most of them did it extremely well. And veneral diseases were rare, and several that are common today were unheard of before the ‘free love’ debacle started.
And, frankly, I’d much rather live in 1880 or 1750 than now. But then, I’m one of those ‘ren faire’ type people, I’d pick most centuries over this one.
So Jespren, would you be a placid, ‘that’s the way things are’ member of that era of society or would you be an activist on one front or another?
Well Reality that’s a pretty broad question and rather depends upon where and when, when people think of growing up in another time they usually follow their family line, but I’ve got everything from Cherokee to German to English aristocrat, we’ve also been in the U.S. since just after the Pilgrims, so are we assuming I was a Cherokee or Colonialist in 1750 or a pioneer in 1920 or an Englishman in 1880? I grew up in Oregon, it was involved in niether the civil war nor the slave trade. If I’d grown up in an Oregon pioneer family, no, I am highly unlikely to have left home and harth to protest or be part of any activist front. Pioneers were generally too busy surviving to get into that stuff. But if I lived in say, Ohio or New England I’m quite sure I would have been involved in the Underground Railroad or the abolisionist movement as a whole. Likewise given my family in general if I’d grown up in the Revolutionary period my would have been highly likely to have been part of that. (On the other hand if I’d grown up in England I would likely have been loyal to the crown but part of the abolisionist movement in England). There are things I feel strongly about that I highly doubt would change regardless of how I grew up, there are other things that I doubt I ever would have considered important enough to protest for given the time period.
Throwing a keg party? Not surprised. the only way to do something like this is if you are intoxicated. How can anyone justify raising money to kill babies? Sometimes the pro choicers give themselves away by going so over the top, this is one of those times.
On the bright side, maybe pro-lifers should take note of some of these ideas and use them to raise money for crisis pregnancy centers. Probably not the keg party idea, but how about the bake sale and church collection?
@Janet – I don’t know why people think the fifties were such a chaste era, when the highest rate of teen pregnancy was in 1958! Back then, however, many young women got married to the father of their child. There were some clandestine abortions, but many “girls in trouble” were sent away to maternity homes, since being pregnant out of wedlock back then was a big disgrace. In many black families, the pregnant girl was sent “down South” to live with relatives. In some cases these “bad” girls were pressured to place their babies for adoption with “respectable” married couples, whether they wanted to or not. There was a stigma against adoption as well and many times these children were never told they were adopted, since the young woman who had birthed him was considered to be “bad”.
I am not saying I approve of Obama’s mandate, but to pretend that things were hunky-dory in the fifties isn’t being realistic.
Phillymiss, I know your comment was to Janet but I mentioned the 50’s as well so felt inclined to answer. Teen pregnancies were higher, but it wasn’t because of rampant sexual activities. The age of first sexual incounter was higher then, and the age of marriage was lower. And, as you stated, even if someone was having premarital sex it usually became marrital sex as soon as a child was conceived. Premarital sex was not encouraged as it was today and if people engaged in something society understood to be harmful, couples ‘did the right thing’ if a child was created. Yes, some adoptions were unduely forced, but I highly doubt it measures anywhere near the number of equally forced abortions today. What’s more if the girl was caught in a mess (father didn’t/couldn’t/wouldn’t marry) giving the child up for adoption was seen as doing the right thing, and properly so. *the* single largest predictor of both criminality and poverty is single motherhood, that society currently idolizes single mothers is to the detriment of society. And, guess what, you make a kid outside of marriage you *are* doing something wrong, there isn’t anything weird about trying to keep it as secret as possible. (Although I agree with open adoptions if the parents are willing).
The 50’s are held up as hunky dory because, in comparision to today, they were. Less crime, less poverty, less out of wedlock births, less broken homes, less abortion, and less juvenile crime.
If the Abortion industry REALLY cared about women they would do the Abortions for FREE! This is how you know that it is ALL ABOUT MONEY! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$