Stanek weekend question: What would your e-card about Obama say?
9/30, 8a: Here’s a good submission from reader David N.:
9/29, 7:13a: Per The Weekly Standard, September 28:
The Obama campaign has created a series of electronic greeting card aimed at women voters. “President Obama summed up the Republican Party’s approach to women’s health when he said ‘they want to take us back to the policies more suited to the 1950s than the 21st century,'” the Obama campaign website reads. “Send an eCard to say you won’t go back.”
Perhaps the oddest card in the series, though, is this one:
which my daughter was good enough to send to me…
Not sure any daughter would seriously send that to her mother, advertising the fact she’s sleeping around in college rather than studying.
The card would also show she’s totally ditching her Math 101 class. Even going so far as to divide $18,000 by 20 years equals $75 a month for birth control, which is akin to Sandra Fluke multiplication. Fluke testified bc could cost a college woman $3,000 over three years, which comes to $83 a month. Meanwhile the Target three miles from Fluke’s school sold the bc pill for $9 a month, and CVS for $33 a month.
But perhaps this is Obama-math, the windfall he plans to direct to Planned Parenthood once the government takes over contraceptive distribution.
Which elicits what we should deduce from the e-card, that the girl wants US to pay for her birth control.
But I digress. The question this weekend is what e-card would you send on behalf of women.barackobama.com?
If you go so far as to design a card, email it to me, and I’ll consider posting it.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Dear Mom:
Barack Obama refused to grant me any civil rights and likened me to a “punishment” and a “mistake” before I was born. Please advise.
WE CAN GO BACK.
Obama women are so mind-numblingly tiresome.
Dear President Obama -
We’re one of the few developed countries in the world without universal healthcare coverage, paid maternity leave, help with daycare costs – and women make less money than men for the same jobs.
If we are going to make abortion “rare”, as you before said is something it should be – we’ve got to both restrict abortion and make economic choices that value family and women. Do you think that the country has both the common sense to put some more abortion restrictions in place, while also the overall sacrifice to value families and women in economic policies?
Looking more and more like you have four more years ahead of you – do the right things in the second four years – not the politically popular things, the right things.
Jill,
I just e-mailed you my “postcard”. ;)
Who are you and what have you done with Ex-Gop?! ;>)!
I saw a pack of 3 condoms on sale for $1.99.
18,000/1.99=9,045,
divided by 365=24
Enough condoms to have sex everyday for 24 years? LOL!!!
“Not sure any daughter would seriously send that to her mother, advertising the fact she’s sleeping around in college rather than studying.”
Oh right, because it’s not like someone could ever have sex at all during college and manage to study as well. I’m sure every single honor student at every college is celibate.
And apparently a woman who uses birth control for any reason in college, even if she’s married, must be “sleeping around”.
But why stop there, Jill? Arn’t there so many other stereotypes you could have promoted in this post as well?
In many ways social conservatives DO want to return to the 1950s ethos. Was the 1950s such a horrible time for women? There was a great deal of respect for women in traditional roles such as housekeepers, cooks, child caregivers. In divorce cases, courts were notoriously biased in favor of the mother for child custody. When Barbara Graham went on trial for her part in the Mabel Monahan murder, prospective jurors were all asked if they would be able to give the death penalty to a woman. There mere fact that it was felt necessary to ask this question demonstrates that people tended to be biased in the favor of female defendants.
Yes, there was discrimination against women in many respects. But there was also discrimination in their favor. This is why many women as well as men are nostalgic for the 1950s.
It also says “to HELP pay for” – implying it costs more than that even?!
DenseGnome says: September 29, 2012 at 1:54 pm “When Barbara Graham went on trial for her part in the Mabel Monahan murder, prospective jurors were all asked if they would be able to give the death penalty to a woman.”
Pregnant women’s ‘choice’ for sex selection abortions of girl babies and hundreds of millions of dead babies of both sexes should have put that silly notion to rest.
The myth of the nurturing, kinder gentler gender has been debunked.
Women can be every bit as cruel and vicious as men.
Humans, of either gender, are stupid.
Dear granpappy b o,
If I promise not to be painful will you promise not to kill me?
xoxoxoxo
your furture grandbaby
I’m sure every single honor student at every college is celibate.
No, but most of them are probably smart and responsible enough to pay for their own damn birth control. Or they should be.
I never expected my mom to pay for my birth control in college, or for my liquor, for that matter. (Thank goodness I didn’t smoke). That’s what the work-study job is for.
Tell you what, though. It would have been really cool if she had taken the time to sit me down and explain as carefully and explicitly as she could why hooking up before marriage could very probably derail the very reason why I went to college in the first place. Straight up. Instead of expecting me to behave like every other promiscuous coed, she might have told me WHY my purity was a really, really precious thing—TO ME.
ONE MILLION OHIOAN USING PHONE SERVICE PAID FOR BY OTHER PEOPLES MONEY
Fees on phone bills pay for $1.5 billion national ‘Lifeline’ program
[Clue: ‘Fee’ = ‘Tax’]
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/subsidized-cell-phone-program-nearly-doubles-in-oh/nRDqC/
“I am unable to have a cellphone and I need one for emergencies,” said Aliesa Azbill of Dayton, who is in a work training program at Community Action Partnership. She said the 250 free minutes she gets per month through SafeLink isn’t enough to use it for much more than emergencies.”
250 minutes a month is insufficient time for this woman to resolve all the emergencies in her life.
Look for this woman to be appearing before a fake congressional committee and complaining about the quality of her cell phone.
I am sure she will also magically appear at an obamateur townhall meeting.
Any bets on who’s paying for her recreational drugs and funding her elelctive surgeries?
At a certain point, you would think Obama would lose some support among women just because his material targeting them is so insulting to their intelligence. $18,000 for birth control, seriously? I mean does Romney have a plan to increase the cost of birth control in addition to not paying for it?
Can we revive that part of the 1950s that included a greater respect for women in domestic roles?
June Cleaver and Hazel and Aunt Bee all epitomized the power of the woman who does the cooking and wields the vacuum cleaner. Let’s go back to that!
Iron My Shirt shouldn’t be seen as a “sexist taunt.” Ironing a shirt is a good and necessary task.
If I pay for an insurance plan, then it better dang well cover contraception and prenatal care. That’s healthcare at the most basic, preventive level. Pretty much ever other postindustrial country has long-recognized the social and economic benefits to making family planning care easily accessible.
STUDY: Female GOP Politicians Look More Feminine
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/27/study-female-gop-politicians-look-more-feminine/
If a new academic study is to be believed, Republican women politicians look more feminine than their Democratic counterparts.
The study, by two UCLA researchers, found that female politicians with what are described as stereotypically feminine features tended to be Republicans, and the reverse was also true for Democratic women. GOP women rated, on average, twice as stereotypically feminine as Democrats.
In fact, the authors said the correlation was so strong that undergraduates were regularly able to guess someone’s party affiliation just by the way she looks.
Let me see if I can apply some DenseGnome analysis to this article:
Female democRAT politicians, in an attempt to reject their femininity, choose to project a ‘masculine’ appearance.
[This seems counter intuitive to feminista dogma. Even some in the homosexual community would say these women look ‘butch’. Not saying that the current Secretary of State is gender challendged, but I have always contended that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the strongest man in the obamateur administration.]
Blue Velvet: You conflate contraception with prenatal care? As if they are similar somehow?
Prenatal care is natural, “preventative” health maintenance. It occurs naturally 4 to 6 times during a healthy woman’s life (some more, some less). It deserves our utmost attention as a just society.
Contraception is not natural nor “preventative.” It does not prevent any sort of disease, nor does it promote overall health. It is a lifestyle drug, like beer and cigarettes. It should not be confused with healthcare, nor covered by insurance. It is a monthly lifestyle consumption expense, like groceries and gasoline. We do not buy insurance for monthly choices of consumption.
Hormonal contraception causes cancer, strokes and blood clots. It offers limited prevention of pregnancy to some women (about 50% failure, overall), and yet impairs the fertility of many women when they desire to become pregnant. Contraception should be treated like tobacco — with its health dangers warned and taught against to very young children, before they are tempted to abuse it.
Blue Velvet says: September 29, 2012 at 7:01 pm
“If I pay for an insurance plan, then it better dang well cover contraception and prenatal care.”
Black & Blue Velvet,
Do not forget your constitutional entitlement to a government provided cell phone.
Black & Blue Velvet,
Did we leave anything out?
How about some mascara or fingernail polish?
Maybe some ‘Summer’s Eve’ or a bikini wax?
Breast augmentation, tummy tuck, buttock lift?
DenseGnome and Black&Blue Velvet,
Should we start a registry for you at Bed, Bath and Beyond ?
CNS, Playboy has long been one of the big financial backers of “family planning” and “choice.” First, follow the money..then see how Playboy talks about and treats “co-eds.” Are there any other stereotypes you want to get your dander up about? Getting government routed birth control IS like asking your mom to pay for your birth control since most college students HAVEN’T paid into the system yet and are just benefiting from it.
And, nobody even notices my bad math! 18K doesn’t provide enough condoms (at retail prices!) to have sex once a day for 24 years. It’s a three-pack! So, at for $1.99 for 3, conservatively, you have enough to last about 72 years: longer than you are even fertile!!
I’m getting the feeling my postcard should read:
“Dear Mom and Dad, enjoying dorm life but having problems with reality and math. Please make sure I attend some academic classes because making my sexual relationship my priority isn’t really the best use of your tuition money. Thankers!!!”
Blue Velvet says: September 29, 2012 at 7:01 pm
“making family planning care easily accessible.”
Do we need to take you helpless waifs by your delicate hands and lead you to your neighborhood pharmacy, some of whom are open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and then guide you to the aisle and shelf where the condoms are located?
I know it’s difficult for you pampered powder puffs, but if you can just get over your embarassment at being so dependent and look for the pharmacist she/he will fill your prescription for oral contraceptives/implantation preventative/abortifacient medication. I know it challenging for you comprehend but there are actually female pharmacists with whom to consult if discussing ‘female’ things with man makes you uncomfortable.
Just exactly what else do you need from us to accomdate your ‘special needs’ so that your recreational drugs are ‘accessible’?
Ninek,
You have nailed it.
You have solved their damsels delima. Cradle to grave, care free sex, three times a day, for less than two bucks a day.
That is less than I pay for my Whataburger breakfast with a free senior coffee.
DenseGnome and Black&BlueVelvet,
Do we need to call a bus for you?
Oh yes. I almost forgot.
Spermicidal jelly is not intended to be spread on toast and taken orally. Please read the directions on the bottle and if necessary consult with your pharmacist.
DenseGnome and Black&BlueVelvet remind me of the ‘cigarette mooch’.
Always ‘jonesin’ for a free smoke and then had to bum a match to light it.
For the two people who responded to my post
Lucy said: ”No, but most of them are probably smart and responsible enough to pay for their own damn birth control. Or they should be.”
That’s not the point. The point is that Jill’s position appears to be that any college student who has sex and/or uses birth control at any time is guilty of neglecting studies for the sake of “sleeping around”. I was simply pointing out the sheer absurdity of such a position.
ninek said: ”CNS, Playboy has long been one of the big financial backers of “family planning” and “choice.” First, follow the money..then see how Playboy talks about and treats “co-eds.” Are there any other stereotypes you want to get your dander up about?
Again, this has nothing to do with what I was talking about. All I did was point out how ridiculous it is to imply that everyone who has sex and uses birth control in college is neglecting their studies for the sake of sleeping around. Are you actually claiming this is a reasonable position?
Del: Seizing the opportunity to work now so that I can support myself later in life is doing wonders for my MENTAL health. How about that? And right now I don’t have to worry about exhaustion, anemia, hypertension, gestational diabetes, C-sections, episiotomies, post-partum depression…somebody sold you a raw bill of goods when they said that having kids was the best thing a woman could do with her body and her life.
Ken: Thanks for the helpful tips. While you’re at it, do you want to help me understand how my private insurance works? Maybe you could explain to me the concept of paying premiums and deductibles, too. And also what happens to the money I pay when Joe Schmo, also a carrier of my insurance plan, needs to undergo a triple bypass surgery because he is a smoker and lover of country fried steak.
CNS: Of course to these people any kind of sex that doesn’t happen within the four safe walls of marriage is automatically promiscuous and dirty. That kind of binary thinking is scary and a precursor to fascism, if you ask me.
I don’t know why ya’ll are up in a huff about 18k for birth control pills. That seems like, a totally legit number. When I took the pill (before I realized it could kill me and/or my children) mine were capped with gold. Yup, 18k…totally legit.
$18,000 for birth control?? According to the ultralefty website Jezebel, the MOST expensive birth control that you can possibly get is $1,200 a year. Why is this girl asking her mother to give her the money for 15 years (at the VERY LEAST) worth of birth control?
Black&BlueVelvet says: September 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm
1. …”help me understand how my private insurance works?”
2. …”explain to me the concept of paying premiums and deductibles, too.”
3. …”what happens to the money I pay when Joe Schmo, also a carrier of my insurance plan, needs to undergo a triple bypass surgery because he is a smoker and lover of country fried steak.”
1. Buy low, sell high. The difference between the two is gross profit. After substracting all the costs of doing business what is left is net profit.
In a free market an individual or a partnership of individuals, produce a good or service the market place demands.
The market place determines the value of the good of service and the price affected by supply and demand.
Competition between the producers tends to drive the price down and give the consumer the most bang for her buck.
Insurance companies sell their products with the intent of making a profit.
2. The insurance company is betting you are not going to access the benefits of their policy and you are betting you are. The premium and the deductibles are reflect a calculation based on probabilities that have been determined by prior experience.
If you use government to limit the profit an insurance can make, instead of letting the market place set the price, then the folks with money who invest in insurance companies with the hope of realizing a reasonable return on their investment will stop participating and invest their money in ventures with a better prospect of making a profit.
The result will be fewer insurance companies and the law of supply and demand will drive the cost of insurance up. Fewer people will be able to afford insurance and the demand will drop and the price will fluctuate until it again reaches equilibrium.
3. Health insurers, like auto insurers, reward responsible behavior.
Large profitable companies that employ many people have the benefit of being able to negotiate with insurance companies to get the most bang for their buck.
Smaller, less profitable companies, have less leverage with the insurers.
If government forces insurers to operate in a manner that will result in less profit then the insurance companies will either reduce their benefits, increase the price of their premiums or stop offerring health insurance.
The law of supply and demand and the free market asserts it’s influence once again.
The market place is not ‘fair or just’. It operates by the rules of supply and demand. It works best when it is ‘FREE’ from interference from idealists and control freaks.
People with wealth will always be able to have more and better stuff than those who have less wealth.
Choose to acquire and increase wealth. Make wise choices. Be honest. Don’t be envious of your neighbors wealth or his/her spouse. Learn to be content with the wealth you have, but don’t settle for less.
Don’t steal from your neighbor, don’t lie about your neighbor, don’t murder your neighbor.
Be generous with your wealth and show hospitality to strangers.
If life deals you a bad hand today, figure out how to make the most of a bad situation and work and hope for a better tomorrow.
I read all that in the ‘book’.
[I have to cite my source or EX-RINO will accuse me of plagarism.]
Is there any part of that you would want me to discard in my dealings with you.
There’s also some stuff about GOD, but HE is perfectly capable of introducing HIMSELF without my assistance. It will mean more to you coming directly from HIM.
But why stop there, Jill? Arn’t there so many other stereotypes you could have promoted in this post as well?
Promoting stereotypes. Who’s doin’ it? Who’s getting a free pass? Who’s getting called on it? Who’s being a hypocrite?
I would have rather had money in college to pay for essentials like tuition and books and food. I didn’t take out a student loan to pay for non-essentials. Maybe we should promote a new stereotype. Instead of the sexy coed, she’ll be the I-don’t-know-the-difference-between a want-or-need co-ed. Tuition is a need. Condoms are a want. Food is a need. Beer is a want. Buy your own beer. Buy your own condoms. Buy your own pale pink lip gloss.
It’s amusing that no one is responding to what I actually said. I never mentioned anything about whether or not BC is a want or need, or about who should pay for it.
All I did was simply point out Jill’s absurd position that anyone who uses birth control in college is guilty of neglecting their studies for the sake of sleeping around.
Is that really such a hard thing to respond too? Either you agree with it or you don’t, or you don’t agree with my interpretation. The fact that no one can come up with a legitimate response to such a simple point really says a lot.
CNS says: All I did was simply point out Jill’s absurd position that anyone who uses birth control in college is guilty of neglecting their studies for the sake of sleeping around. Is that really such a hard thing to respond too? Either you agree with it or you don’t, or you don’t agree with my interpretation. The fact that no one can come up with a legitimate response to such a simple point really says a lot.
I read Jill’s statement as hyperbole. But if she meant it seriously then I have three comments:
1) Agreed, in that there was no way in heck I was going to tell my mother I was sexually active in college.
2) Agreed, in that based on my college experience sexual activity brought all kinds of drama and emotional upheaval that did interfere with study.
3) The same may or may not be true for others.
That’s not the point. The point is that Jill’s position appears to be that any college student who has sex and/or uses birth control at any time is guilty of neglecting studies for the sake of “sleeping around”. I was simply pointing out the sheer absurdity of such a position.
Except Jill never said or implied that. Therefore, your “point” is meaningless. Although, to be fair, overly focusing on one’s sex life can certainly lead to neglect in other, more important areas. Such as studying and finishing college.
It’s amusing that no one is responding to what I actually said.
You might want to go back and re-read a few of those posts.
All I did was simply point out Jill’s absurd position that anyone who uses birth control in college is guilty of neglecting their studies for the sake of sleeping around
Except Jill doesn’t say that anywhere.
Is that really such a hard thing to respond too?
I think you meant to use “to” here. Once again, go back and re-read the original post and the replies to your comment.
Lrning: I read Jill’s statement as hyperbole. But if she meant it seriously then I have three comments:
1) Agreed, in that there was no way in heck I was going to tell my mother I was sexually active in college.2) Agreed, in that based on my college experience sexual activity brought all kinds of drama and emotional upheaval that did interfere with study.
3) The same may or may not be true for others.
#3 really says it all. Sure sexual activity can be a distraction from studies, just like gambling, video games, and tv. But the notion that ANY sexual activity, in any amount, is inherently distracting simply does not hold up. Again, does anyone here really believe that all college honor students are celibate?
Even more ridiculous is the implication that any use of birth control proves a person must be “sleeping around”. How do with know said birth control is not for use with just one partner? Heck it could even be for a spouse. People do sometimes get married before they go to college, after all.
Lucy said: Except Jill never said or implied that.
I think the implication is clear. Her response to the letter was that the writer must be neglecting studies and “sleeping around”, even though the letter didn’t say how much sex the person was having, or with how many partners it was with. What other interpretation could there be?
Although, to be fair, overly focusing on one’s sex life can certainly lead to neglect in other, more important areas. Such as studying and finishing college.
That’s true for overindulgence with any activity, including gambling, video games, and partying. The point is that there is no way to tell whether or not the writing was neglecting her studies and “sleeping around” based on what was in the letter.
Jill simply assumed the writer was having too much sex and “sleeping around” based on nothing but the fact that she uses birth control. Is is really so hard to what an outrageous claim this is?
If the student is married, she wouldn’t be asking her mother for birth control money. Responsible adulthood is one of the outcomes of marriage. And if she is married, her mother would be very delighted with the prospect of a grandbaby.
At any rate, I agree with the other posters – remedial math classes are in order for Obama women – and perhaps remedial classes in American government for better understanding of the powers and responsibilities of the Federal government, and the powers reserved to the states and the people.
Jill simply assumed the writer was having too much sex and “sleeping around” based on nothing but the fact that she uses birth control.
Or it could be based on the number thrown out – that being $18,000. If a young woman needs this much money for birth control during her college years, her studies are being neglected. Her partner(s) should be paying for half. If he is not helping out, she is being used which will definitely affect her studies. If there is more than one he involved, she is sleeping around.
Common Sense 101.
Mr. President please keep spiking the football with respect to killing OBL, while simultaneously telling the American and Islamic public that you are Islam friendly. Please continually restate your belief that it was the American anti-Islamic film that caused the attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi to take place. It is so obvious you like Islam and the Islamic people when you proudly declare that you killed one of their leaders…don’t worry I am sure the people who supported OBL never heard you say that and they will be quick to forgive and forget anyway. Furthermore, no one is hip enough to catch onto your subtle double talk.
No worries… your foreign policy doesn’t affect women… women are not affected by foreign policy issues. Women simply care about free birth control.
This message to mom is ridiculous, but not for the reasons the left think it is, as many have pointed out. What keeps haunting me is how asking mom and/or dad for money to help you (with something important?! not birth control) is somehow disfunctional. Didn’t Obama recently say he didn’t want students to have to borrow money from their parents for tuition? I know not every person has that option, and it may not be economically advantageous. But why is family dependence spun so negatively?
I drove past a house with a pro-Obama sign saying “America is a family, not a business.”
I get it – that’s sweet and all, but really … “We want to BE (take the place of!?!) your family?!”
Well, regardless of whether or not that creeps you out, my family has a budget and I suggest that if we as a nation wanna be one big happy family, we be the kind who sticks to a budget. That means cutting the extra fluff, and making hard decisions.
Is it only leftie kids who would naturally think of asking the parents for a loan for many years supply of BC? (Only six years at Georgetown, where the gurls seem to need a lot.)
My take on that 18000 birth control loan is HERE.
Just for fun……
Yes, there you have it. While ALL the world has viewed co-eds as serious, studious, industrious, and academic, only Jill has implied that they might be slightly more distracted. Oh, Jill and that radio talk show host, whatshisname. Other than those two, who are obviously bringing down the entire reputation of all co-eds worldwide… blah blah blah.
MY original point was that Hugh Hefner has been promulgating the image of the sexy coed for longer than Jill Stanek has been alive. But that’s ok, Sandra-is-not-a-fluke, you just keep a tight hold on your umbrage. It will suit you well in that first post-college job interview.
So Ninek, is it your view that anyone who has any sex at all during college is an inherently bad student? That’s what Jill seemed to imply, and it seems the same goes for you.
Why are you the only one here that thinks Jill seemed to imply that anyone who has any sex at all during college is an inherently bad student?
Jeesh. One can be a great student and still be a messed up individual. The gal that wants $18,000 for birth control, though, is not doing so well in classes involving numbers.
God said no premarital sex because it messes up His plans to bless our life, not because He’s a killjoy. I was going to write that maybe some students can pull it off and not let it interfere with better things but that wouldn’t be true. I think I was one prescription for birth control shy of being sexually active in college, and even the consorting I did with the frat boys affected my studies and balance negatively, and I honestly regret it. Note I still did very well, but squandered my potential. CNS – I think you are reacting to the “sleeping around rather than studying” line. When I was busy getting the attention of the males on campus, I was indeed doing that rather than studying. I don’t think Jill meant rather than studying AT ALL.
CNS, what you seem to have missed is that Jill’s statement (“Not sure any daughter would seriously send that to her mother, advertising the fact she’s sleeping around in college rather than studying.”) is not aimed at “anyone who has any sex at all during college”. It’s aimed at someone that would send this note to their mother: “Can I borrow $18,000 to help pay for my birth control?”
I have a brother who believes contemporary America is a kind of “slob nation.” He finds the greater formality of the 1950s and 1940s far more attractive. My mother really hates the way lank straight hair has come into style. The wavy and curly hair popular in the 1950s and 1940s looks more glamorous in her opinion and, as a classic movie buff, I have to agree.
Resurrecting aspects of the 1950s is a legitimate and worthwhile goal.
kenthebirther: Should we start a registry for you at Bed, Bath and Beyond ?
You don’t help the cause of social conservatism by ridiculing the importance of homemaking. To a large extent, the public life is lived FOR the private life. Homemaking is vital to a good life.
I was a slut and Phi Beta Kappa, so no, the two are not mutually exclusive. You’re an idiot if you think that’s the point. What sleeping around before mt marriage cost me is never recoverable. Girls who hook up a lot in college where they need on-going birthcontrol don’t get to be in their mid-forties and think, “Wow, that was GREAT, how easily I gave myself away!” And if they do, they haven’t experienced the truth of a covenantal marriage or the love of her FATHER.