Pro-choice extremism: Opposing public opinion, science and medicine
Looking at Gallup over the years, opposition to abortion after six months has never dropped below 80 percent. Even at three months, the numbers are still impressive: Over 60 percent of Americans consistently oppose abortions after the first trimester, and in 2011 they rose to 71 percent.
If these were election results, you’d call it a landslide….
Reporters describe the new [Texas] law as “sweeping” and “extreme.”…
But the French might call it permissive. France bans abortion after just 12 weeks. In fact, most of Europe agrees with Texas. Most of the world agrees with Texas. So, who are the extremists?
We are often told we must reach common ground…. This plea generally comes from the political left, for whom common ground on abortion means taxpayer-funded contraception, which simply changes the subject. On abortion itself, they admit no compromise: no limitation, no delay, no parental involvement, not even personal financial responsibility….
The “pro-choice” fringe is not only fighting public opinion, but science and medicine as well…. Medical experts are demonstrating that fetuses can feel pain much earlier in pregnancy than previously thought, a reality that adds a whole new dimension to the abortion debate and was the driving force behind the new Texas law….
The growing acceptance of the truth about fetal pain gives late-term abortion defenders a tremendous challenge – not only to find ways to obscure the reality that abortion takes a human life, but to find the right words to excuse what we now know is torture.
There are no such words. And so they bring jars of urine.
~ Cathy Cleaver Ruse, The Daily Caller, July 24
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
“France bans abortion after just 12 weeks.” – that’s not completely accurate. It bans abortion on demand after 12 weeks. After that they make exceptions for cases of rape, incest, and fetal impairment, to preserve woman’s physical or mental health, and for social or economic reasons.
“In fact, most of Europe agrees with Texas. Most of the world agrees with Texas.” – on a gestational time limit yes. Pretty much everything else, particularly sex-ed, pregnancy care and womens healthcare not so much.
Contraception in France is free. Mandatory sex-ed begins in elementary school. The teen birth rate is a fraction of that in Texas. Contraceptive use amongst the sexually active is much higher. Health care before, during and after pregnancy is much better in France.
“So, who are the extremists?” – Perry et al of course, it’s obvious.
That’s so encouraging: Let’s take the limit and make it 12 weeks. I’m in!
I don’t know about you, but I’ve never seen a jar of urine lose an argument.
“After that they make exceptions for cases of rape, incest, and fetal impairment, to preserve woman’s physical or mental health, and for social or economic reasons.” — Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.
“Pretty much everything else, particularly sex-ed, pregnancy care and womens healthcare not so much.”– Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.
“Contraception in France is free. Mandatory sex-ed begins in elementary school. The teen birth rate is a fraction of that in Texas. Contraceptive use amongst the sexually active is much higher. Health care before, during and after pregnancy is much better in France.” — Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.
“So, who are the extremists?” — Reality and the Pro-Choice “realists”, who else?
Pro-choice urine has special magical qualities. It is a spiritual thing…you wouldn’t understand.
:)
The pro-aborts are extremist in their views and extremist in their actions.
They are also a bit insane in their choice of locations to protest. It accomplishes nothing to mob and riot at the State Capitol…. The legislators have already consulted with their constituents and decided on their votes. Pro-aborts have put too much faith in their elite ruling class. Unfortunately the Elitists, by definition, do not care what mobs are hollering about.
If the pro-aborts have a message that they hope Americans will accept, they need to work it in the home districts — where an overwhelming majority of voters want restrictions and bans on late-term abortions, and safe medical standards in abortion clinics. The American people are not with them.
“Pro-choice urine has special magical qualities.”
Tommy R ~ Because they’ve decided and feel it has value, it does.
Lol, that reminds me of the pro-abort that posted here that she was pro-life until she went to college and then “magically” became pro-choice-to-abort.
“Let’s take the limit and make it 12 weeks.” – and then you’ll find a different cause to apply your time and efforts to yes?
Exceptions – “Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.” – remind me how the legislation goes again?
Sex-ed – “Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.” – remind me how those legislators addressed these issues?
Contraception – “Then fight for these issues and not for abortion-on-demand.” – remind me how good the chances are of those legislators ever doing anything positive on these issues are?
Why are you only fighting for one thing?
“The pro-aborts are extremist in their views and extremist in their actions.” – yet whose hands are the guns and bombs in?
“The legislators have already consulted with their constituents and decided on their votes.” – I think you mean ‘supporters’, not ‘constituents.’
Looks like Reality has time on his hands again. Dude, try Luminosity. It might help. and it’ll keep you busy. LOL
You’re here. Don’t want to answer the question? It’s quite straight-forward.
ninek says:
July 30, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Lol, that reminds me of the pro-abort that posted here that she was pro-life until she went to college and then “magically” became pro-choice-to-abort.
(Denise) More people should study from home.
Yes, R, I will fight abortion from conception to 12 weeks, even after you and all your abortion loving friends agree to a nationwide ban after 12 weeks.
What about you? Going to stop fighting for abortion up to and past birth?
“I will fight abortion from conception to 12 weeks” – if you won’t accept a gestational time limit why should pro-choicers?
“even after you and all your choice supporting friends agree to a nationwide ban after 12 weeks.” - if you won’t then obviously we won’t.
“What about you? Going to stop fighting for abortion up to” – nup. Maybe if anti-choicers accept a gestational time limit it could be considered.
“and past birth?” – that’s not abortion.
Pro-choicers in Europe accept a time limit.
he he, so you would like us to believe.
The anti-choicers did. They said “that sounds fair and reasonable” and all went home.
Don’t forget that France went from 0 weeks to 12 weeks plus exceptions. Not quite the same as in Texas :-)
Readers will be quick to note that pro-lifers are quite active in Europe. One place to check out is “40 Days for Life” website which can provide you with information on which cities were host to 40 Days campaigns in the recent past, and which ones will be active for this fall’s 40 Days. See you out there! We had three confirmed “saves” at our location this past spring. Pregnant mothers need material assistance, not cannulas.
The “pro-choice” fringe is not only fighting public opinion, but science and medicine as well…. The most poignant sentence in this post. Needs no explanation and clarification. Reality here fights against the wind mills. Even with the pro-abortion current Administration, pro-life movement will prevail.
As I stated in another thread, pro-abortion will lose momentum as more and more women and men in that camp start to realize that these abortions make their ranks thinner. How do you get the younger generation to scream “pro-choice” if abortion effectively ensures that there is no younger generation? Will pro-abortionists import from Belgium?
“Readers will be quick to note that pro-lifers are quite active in Europe.” – how did the whole free abortions and contraception in France campaign turn out for them?
Which locations in France, Belgium, Germany, Scandinavia and Holland had rallies? Austria? Switzerland?
“pro-abortion will lose momentum as more and more women and men in that camp start to realize that these abortions make their ranks thinner.” – pro-choicers do actually have children. And not all anti-choicers children become anti-choice.
It is my opinion that pro-abortionists SHOULD NEVER have children. To bring into this world a human being only to raise her/him with a sense of misguided procreation ideology and the notion that this human being can reject pregnancy (the greatest miracle in the making) on a whim, is just abhorrent to me.
“It is my opinion that pro-abortionists SHOULD NEVER have children.” – so many layers of irony in so few words. Amazing.
Did this statement produce a visceral reaction in you Reality? Did I strike a chord of a deeper meaning to life? Does your response indicate that you value human life from its conception?
In your dreams sunshine.
It struck me as one of the most ironic statements I’ve seen in a while. Did that not strike you? Did that not mean anything to you? Does your response indicate that you even understand what you said?
Yes, I do understand that life extends beyond one’s nose Reality. My motto: We do not live for ourselves alone. Pro-abortionists motto: humanity r’us.
Pro-life embraces the greatest miracle in the making Reality. I am proud to be a part of this movement. Pro-abortionists refer to a conceived child as a “clump of cells” and, that statement alone is the biggest irony of all.
Pro-choice motto – ‘humanity r’us’ – I like it! Thanks.
“Pro-life embraces the greatest miracle in the making” – conception is a miracle now is it. I guess that’s what happens sex-ed consists of ‘don’t do it!’
There are umpteen terms for the product of conception, some objective and some subjective. Can you demonstrate that ‘clump of cells’ is scientifically inaccurate?
I can’t respond right at this moment. Too busy praying for the two – year old who died after serving as best man at his parents’ wedding and for the parents that they are blessed with many more offspring.
Reality: I don’t dream about you, ever!!!
But, I will accept being called Sunshine… as long as it is followed by …for preborn life:
Yes, SUNSHINE FOR PREBORN LIFE. You may refer to me by this moniker from this point on.
Time to deliver some disillusionment to you Thomas R.
We don’t always know what we’ve dreamed. So you don’t know whether you dream of me or not.
You want gestating fetuses exposed to the elements?!?
Dear Lord! A metaphor. Sunshine as in sustaining life (brightness or radiance; cheerfulness or happiness; a source of cheer or happiness). So in this moniker I am describing preborn life as equivalent to what the term sunshine represents (if still confused, see descriptors in parenthesis above).
And I thought you had a good grasp of figurative speech having called me sunshine to begin with (eyeroll).
Keep posting Sunshine :-)
The exercise is good fo my eyes ;-)
Sweet dreams
So how come you are getting ZERO likes for you self-centered responses?
You think I’m trying to win a popularity contest? How shallow are you?
I support womens freedom, you don’t. Who does that make self-centered?
You are a funny boy :-)
Yes you are! Your most recent comments with the little smileys are a good indication of that strife. And besides, what other reason would there be for a pro-abortionist to crash a pro-life blog?
Your definition of “freedom” alone makes your quest self-centered. Do you get that? And as far as referring to me as “shallow:” – the difference btw you and me is enormous as I think global and you think local (not beyond your nose that is), so no – your assessment is pointless. And lately you don’t take criticism very well either. Sheeish!!!!