Focus on babies in missing Malaysian jet perturbs abortion advocate
This tweet by Jodi Jacobson, editor-in-chief of the pro-abortion website RH Reality Check, is a great prospect for psychoanalysis:
Can someone tell me Y the phrase “including two infants” is important when talking abt 227 people lost on board air flight from Kuala Lumpur
— JodiJacobson 🇺🇦 🩸🦷 @jljacobson@mastodon.social (@jljacobson) March 8, 2014
The pro-abortion mind never fails to amaze me. Who would think of something like that, other than someone whose frontal lobe is steeped in abortion support?
Jacobson was right that initial news reports on the likely disaster, and many headlines, included a special notation that either one or two infants were among the passengers…
But Jodi asked a good question. Why is it that while all innocent deaths (presumed, but not confirmed in this case) are tragic, the deaths of babies are somehow worse? For example…
Sendin prayers 4 d passengrs n crew membrs of Malaysian Airline which went missin dis mornin. Thinkin of d 2 infants makes me weepy:(
— Rinzin Lhamo (@RinzinL) March 8, 2014
The answer is because babies are, well, babies, the tiniest, most innocent members of our species. We instinctively seek to protect them most of all.
Along the same lines, this is why starving children are deemed more tragic than starving adults, or why we are more sickened to learn about child victims of sex trafficking than adult victims, or children strapped with suicide bombs. Grown-ups are supposed to protect children, the most vulnerable among us.
Which brings me back to Jacobson, who was obviously aggravated that the deaths of babies would warrant special attention over other deaths.
It makes sense that Jacobson would be hypersensitive about dying babies, since as of 2012 she made $179,293 annually to promote murdering those who are preborn.
It makes sense that Jacobson’s psyche would even be repelled by babies.
She has turned off the instinctively compassionate human switch to protect them and turned on an abnormal switch to kill them.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Good catch, Jill. So bizarre.
Seriously wondering if she has some sort of “brain malady”.
It is because babies are so helpless and fully dependent on adults for care and safety.
I understand that the Lockerbie bombers intended for the PanAm plane to explode over the ocean, never to be found. It was only by mistake that it exploded over Lockerbie. I have to wonder if this is was happened to the Malaysian plane. You also have to wonder how stolen passports went undetected, especially more than one on one flight.
How terrible for these families. If at least there were answers. It may take months or years before there are.
BTW, ever since I can remember, its been mentioned that infants and children were victims of plane crashes, or just about any other tragedy one can think of. Hopefully that takes a load off your shoulders Jodi.
Very good article and good analysis.
It makes it more palatable when you’ve never saw an abortion law you didn’t love and defend to dismiss all human babies as not too “important” (her term). Secular humanist relativism, political correctness gone amuck and pathetic twisted logic all come into play when you worship at the idol of “Dead Babies R Us”.
Kind of reminds me of Hilary Ms. Maggie Award Winner telling the congressional hearing “What difference does it make? You’ve got 4 dead Americans.” For the pro-abort Ms. Jacobson what difference does it make and why make a big deal out of “dead babies” on this flight when people like her have devoted their life to ensuring that if the mothers on this flight had wanted a dead baby before they were born, they should have gotten one.
“Having declared themselves wise they have become fools”.
My heart and prayers go out to all of the families of those on this flight, I am indeed so sorry for their loss and especially for the loss of the precious babies on this flight. Most normal people consider the death of infants as especially painful and difficult because they have not lived their full life, burying a child seems the most tragic thing that can happen to most people.
I’ll be honest, it bothers me when a newscaster will say, “Twenty-seven people were killed in the blast — including some women and children.” As if to suggest, “..If it were 27 adult males, well, that would kinda suck, but THIS is a REAL tragedy!”
Of course, that this came from RH Keep Our Heads in the Sand puts a different spin on it.
“I’ll be honest, it bothers me when a newscaster will say, “Twenty-seven people were killed in the blast – including some women and children.” As if to suggest, “..If it were 27 adult males, well, that would kinda suck, but THIS is a REAL tragedy!”
Lol I know, it’s annoying when people single out women when we’re talking about adult deaths of both genders. When soldiers die it’s run of the mill unless a female soldier dies, etc. I don’t know why it’s sadder for women to die than men, weird.
I don’t mind them singling out babies though. I do think the death of children is more tragic than the death of adults, personally.
In the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah building, three pregnant women were among the victims, yet the three pre-born babies were not counted. When the victims are mentioned, they always say “168 victims”…there were actually 171. At the memorial (I haven’t been able to visit it yet), there are 168 chairs. I’ve always thought that was very sad, AND disrespectful to those three precious lives -not to even be counted. You would THINK the families of those babies would have raised the issue. If they did, it was never reported.
Deluded Lib Pro-Lifer says:
March 10, 2014 at 1:15 pm
“I’ll be honest, it bothers me when a newscaster will say, “Twenty-seven people were killed in the blast – including some women and children.” As if to suggest, “..If it were 27 adult males, well, that would kinda suck, but THIS is a REAL tragedy!”
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The answer to DeLib and Jodi Jacobson is the same: In reality, all people are NOT equal. There is a natural hierarchy to all things.
Most people instinctively understand that we owe a higher duty of care toward those who are weaker. Men owe a duty to protect women. Adults owe a duty to protect children. The rich owe a duty to help the poor. Governors serve the citizens.
There is also a disordered view in modern culture — that the strong have a right to oppress those who are weaker. The rich should exploit the poor. The men should use the women. Women should be allowed to kill their children. Citizens serve the governors, or else!
The culture war really comes down to the battle between these two views of hierarchy. So it is not surprising that Jacobson is offended by the special dignity given to the memory of the little ones lost in this tragedy. She would prefer that a few celebrity dignitaries were singled out for recognition…. that’s why she’s okay with the “4 Americans” and the “12 crew members,” but not the “2 infants.”
“Most people instinctively understand that we owe a higher duty of care toward those who are weaker. Men owe a duty to protect women. Adults owe a duty to protect children. The rich owe a duty to help the poor. Governors serve the citizens.”
I don’t disagree that adults should protect children, or that the weak should protect the strong. I (strongly as I possibly can) disagree that men’s lives are less important than women’s or that women are “weaker” than men. Physically, sure, most men are stronger than the vast majority of women, but that’s not the only thing that goes into whether someone is “weak” or “strong”.
This attitude is why most homeless people are men and yet most services for the homeless are geared towards women, why domestic violence and other types of violence like sexual assault are completely ignored or seen as “not serious” if the victims are male, why no one is concerned that the male suicide rate is three times that of the female suicide rate, etc. I don’t view adults males as less important than adult females, and this sick attitude of putting women on the weird pedestal where they are simultaneously seen as weaker and yet more important than men is causing major issues imo.
“In the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah building, three pregnant women were among the victims, yet the three pre-born babies were not counted. When the victims are mentioned, they always say “168 victims”…there were actually 171. At the memorial (I haven’t been able to visit it yet), there are 168 chairs.”
Sad. :( I do believe unborn children were counted at a 9/11 memorial, though. Did I read that somewhere?
Who would think of something like that, other than someone whose frontal lobe is steeped in abortion support?
Or someone who is really depraved.
Real men know they have a responsibility to protect women and children. We live in an evil fallen world fraught with dangers and hazards and men are better equipped with the strength to fight evil. I don’t understand people that don’t get that.
This lady doesn’t have a “brain malady” though. Jill nailed it. She has a mind malady where she’s come into agreement with the ways of evil. satan comes to steal, kill and destroy and she has allowed him to take up residence in her mind and heart. Sometimes she can’t help herself and it comes out in her tweets.
It reminds me of the guy out at the local child killing center who after making his partner get an abortion made a shooting motion with his hand like he was holding a gun and threatened, “Keep talkin’ and we’ll kill you and throw your body in that dumpster too.” He let out a wicked laugh as he drove away.
The vast majority of people have no clue about the spiritual war they live in the midst of.
“We live in an evil fallen world fraught with dangers and hazards and men are better equipped with the strength to fight evil. I don’t understand people that don’t get that.”
Maybe because some of us don’t think women are equivalent to children and incapable of being “strong” or taking care of themselves? Gosh, it’s so condescending, I don’t know how women put up with it. As a man, apparently my life has always been worth less than a woman’s life, but at least I’m treated as an adult capable of making my own decisions and taking care of myself, even when it’s unfair. Women are pretty constantly treated as if they are incapable of doing so. I can’t imagine how grating and patronizing that would be to deal with all the time.
I’m teaching my daughter that she doesn’t need a guy to take care of her and that intellectually and strength-wise she’s the equal of men. To make up for the lack of purely physical strength I’ll teach her to shoot and buy her a gun when she’s eighteen. And I’m certainly not teaching my son that he’s worth less than a woman and that he’ll never be vulnerable. And I’ll teach them both that if you can help someone who needs it and protect others, you should, regardless of gender.
There’s the helplessness, but there’s also the fact that young lives are full of unreleased, undeveloped potential. They are hope and promise personified.
All that aside, infants don’t buy plane tickets or make travel plans–their guardians do. When infants die in plane, train, or car crashes, it is because of decisions that were made for them, decisions over which they had no control. I’m not blaming parents for taking babies on airplanes (done it myself!). I’m saying that whatever the fate of these infants, it was through no desire, let alone action of their own that they were even in that plane at that time.
“There’s the helplessness, but there’s also the fact that young lives are full of unreleased, undeveloped potential. They are hope and promise personified.”
Yup, that’s why I find child’s deaths so much more tragic than adults (though it’s terrible when adults die too, of course), and I’ll never ever understand why people don’t care about aborted babies. At least an adult who dies had a chance to live some life, children didn’t get to experience anything before their life ended.
And you’re right about the utter helplessness. Adults make their own decisions, even if they can’t possibly predict things like plane crashes. Babies and children are just along for the ride. :( Another thing when it comes to abortion, babies didn’t get to choose their conception, they can’t help it that their mother doesn’t want to be pregnant. They don’t deserve to have their life taken over something they have no control of.
Jack I don’t think anyone here especially Ed H. was at all condescending toward women in what he was saying. I think sometimes you take things way to sensitively. As a strong woman myself with a strong, protective husband I have never felt insulted, put down, relegated to being lesser by my husband’s insistence on protecting and providing for me and our children. Probably because he has never put me down or been abusive even though we had a few heated arguments about control issues where I lost my cool more than he did especially in the early years of our marriage. He has encouraged me in every endeavor educationally, professionally, spiritually, socially, doing volunteer work, pro-life work, work with youth, etc.
This is not a put down of you or your difficult childhood Jack (I think you are a very special young man who God is just waiting to reveal to you your divine purpose and destiny as you seek Him first, I believe you will overcome your abusive childhood) but I think maybe having not grown up seeing a healthy, supportive, stable marriage it may be hard for you to understand the dynamics.
For most women who have had strong, stable marriages there is no insult to being considered weaker in some areas just as our husbands are weaker in other areas; it is a complementary relationship of give and take emotionally, mentally, physically, socially, hormonally, sexually and spiritually. My hormonal mood swings used to drive my husband crazy until we started communicating better, praying together about our relationship along with reading the Bible and other books on some of these issues. He has been a great prayer partner, spiritual leader in our home, my best friend, confidante and advisor, but I am strong in other areas. Does that make any sense?
I would not like to see any young woman “wait for a man to take care of her”, she needs to pursue being all she can be for herself not for a man. She may or may not get married some day and that is fine. I have had a professional career and have found it to be great but not nearly as fulfilling as being who God has created me to be personally along with being a wife and mother. God bless you Jack, still praying for God’s best for you because he “knows the plans he has for you.”.,
Born infants are one thing. Obsession about fetuses in the crash are another.
Yes, because there’s nothing tragic about an unborn baby (supposedly, wanted by the mother at least, probably the father too) dying. Your compassion is showing again Merit.
“For most women who have had strong, stable marriages there is no insult to being considered weaker in some areas just as our husbands are weaker in other areas; it is a complementary relationship of give and take emotionally, mentally, physically, socially, hormonally, sexually and spiritually. My hormonal mood swings used to drive my husband crazy until we started communicating better, praying together about our relationship along with reading the Bible and other books on some of these issues. He has been a great prayer partner, spiritual leader in our home, my best friend, confidante and advisor, but I am strong in other areas. Does that make any sense?”
Sure, makes sense for you. What I object to are stereotypes. The only one that really actually holds true is that men are generally physically stronger than women, especially when it comes to upper body strength. I just think it’s ridiculous to pretend that women as a whole are “weak” and need to be protected (from what, exactly? A mugger? Sure, male strength might come in handy then but for most day to day stuff physical strength doesn’t make much difference) and this stupid attitude that men are less valuable lives than women are. People have varying strengths and weaknesses, there might be some general trends by gender but everyone is different. That’s why I hate those terrible books like “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus” because they are just loads of stereotypes that don’t seem to hold true if I try to apply them to the real world. And I hate the traditional gender roles thing, I have rarely met people who actually fit them. And sorry I’m never going to have the personality of a Christian patriarch, lol, sorry if I am not a real man. :0
Men are “better equipped with the strength to fight evil”?
What does this even mean?
The debate about the death of women being more tragic than men misses the fact that it is an instinct deeply ingrained in many (hopefully most) men to be protective of women. And if we remember that our ancestors were hunter-gathers until relatively recently, it makes sense. Prior to the invention of infant formula, a baby was far more dependent on its mother than babies are now. If a mother died, it was likely that any nursing child she had would die too if another woman couldn’t be found to nurse the child. Likewise, if she had been pregnant, her child would die if she died. Women back then would have spent most of their fertile years either with nursing children or pregnant, so the instinct to protect women would have conferred a reproductive advantage on men (since their offspring would be more likely to survive).
Since we no longer live as hunter-gathers, does this make sense anymore? From an intellectual perspective, probably not. In modern society, people are relatively safe from the threats that our ancestors took for granted. The problem is that instincts do not just get turned off like that. I think it is one of the reason why widowers tend to have a much harder time adjusting to the death of their wives than widows do adjusting to the death of their husbands.
I responded to Jodi’s question on twitter. Three words: BABIES ARE OUR FUTURE! Doubt she will understand.
When AREN’T liberal proabort writers perturbed???
“The debate about the death of women being more tragic than men misses the fact that it is an instinct deeply ingrained in many (hopefully most) men to be protective of women. ”
Well see I do get that, but I feel protective of anyone who is being harmed and needs helped, regardless of what their gender is. I’ve seen people ignore fights where a smaller guy is getting the tar knocked out of him by a dude twice his size (and I’ve been the smaller guy in that fight sometimes, lol), people don’t ever do anything about it. But I can’t stand it, I’ve gotten involved and tried to help a small person who’s being unfairly overpowered by someone bigger, I didn’t stop and check to see what they had between their legs first! And I do get just as upset about tragedies involving male deaths and much as I do about female deaths. Maybe I am simply weird. But I don’t think we should encourage it with this crap about about men are “stronger” so it’s magically less sad when they die. ALL life is precious. Even the dreaded and disposable adult male lol.
Why is she complaining? Those babies had already been born, so I thought feeling badly for them was A-OK in the abortion rights world.
P.S. Why is caring about babies who are not yet born supposedly “obsession.” but caring about babies who are already born (prolife people have been known to do both, and I believe strongly that we should) is fine?
Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” Matthew 19:14. That’s the reason!!
There’s also a perfectly uncaring and logical reason for news outlets to focus on the presence of infants. When flying, infants up to age 2 are often allowed to sit in a lap and are not counted as ticketed passengers. So for clarity about the total death count, there is just as much a need to specify infants as to specify the number of crew members. Of course all the reasons above are valid too, I’m just pointing this out to show how reactionary and biased Jocobson’s views are that she couldn’t even fathom a reason for including itthe info other than (to her) misguided baby-worship.