Breaking: Discovery Channel hostage holder is population control, anti-life nut
UPDATE, 9:15p: Lee has been killed, and his hostages are safe. From the Associated Press:
A man who railed against the Discovery Channel’s environmental programming for years burst into the company’s headquarters with at least 1 explosive device strapped to his body Wednesday and took 3 people hostage at gunpoint before police shot him to death, officials said.The hostages – 2 Discovery Communications employees and a security guard – were unhurt after the 4-hour standoff.
UPDATE, 4:15p: More from CBS:
One of the demands on the Save The Planet website states: “Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation.”
4p: According to ABC News this afternoon:
A gunman, possibly carrying explosives and who police say is an environmental activist, has entered the headquarters of the Discovery Channel, fired shots and taken hostages, according to police and witnesses in Silver Spring, MD.
Law enforcement identified the suspect as James Lee, 43, from Washington, DC, who has for at least 2 years called for protests against the company and who was arrested and found guilty of disorderly conduct for a protest outside of Discovery’s headquarters in 2008.
In a rambling manifesto on Lee’s website, believed to have been written by Lee, the writer rails against “disgusting human babies,” “parasitic infants,” and says people should “disassemble civilization.” The manifesto also calls on Discovery to “broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet.”
More from the Washington Post:
Federal officials confirmed that Lee is the creator of this http://SavethePlanetProtest.com, which detail his complaints against Discovery. Among them was this one that seems to be aimed at the overpopulation of the planet: “All programs on Discovery Health–TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.
“False heroics behind those actions.” Sounds like an indictment against TLC programs like Kate Plus Eight and 19 Kids and Counting.
[HT: Kelli; photo via CBS]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Praying. Hope everyone gets out ok. :(
The original site is down, but the Google cache of his demands is still up:
http://tinyurl.com/29cxo7x
Also, according to ABC, the guy was shot dead and the hostages are okay. Poor nutcase.
Thank you, Lord!!
And Chris. :)
Sad situation.
Jill, contact Peter Shinn and have him look at his source footage from Protest the Pill Day 2009. Watch the guy in the background.
Protest the Pill in D.C.
This may be the same guy who harassed the pro-lifers out there. At 7:40 you can see his face. What do you all think?
Listen to his concern for animals here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6GxktGdww
I feel sorry for this guy, and sorry that he did something so extreme that the police found it necessary to kill him. If you think of babies as “parasites” and think humanity must cease in order to save the planet, you can’t feel very good about yourself.
“Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation.”
Well, he reduced the population by one with his misanthropic actions. Once again, evil devours its host. God have mercy on his soul.
Lord, please help me have the sympathy I should have for this poor creature.
Evil did devour it’s host, that is very true.
Looks like this guy and Scott Roeder can share a little corner of hell together.
Poor devil… He looks like he believed everything they said on Art Bell/George Noori’s show
Call me crazy, but Lee’s little rant sounds vaguely similar to the writings of our current Science Czar, John Holdren.
But it’s all academic, you see.
carder –
Since you asked – I agree, you are crazy
Cranky, woah. It sure looks like the guy. Same garb as this photo – http://www.mediaite.com/online/who-is-james-lee-could-he-be-the-assailant-at-discovery-channel-hostage-situation/.
But I don’t see that clear shot of his face at 7:40 on either video.
Oh, Ex GOP…there you go making a funny.
I shamelessly quote Robert Stacy at The Other McCain blog:
In other words, James J. Lee hated babies and wasn’t content with doing what most people who hate babies do: Vote Democrat and contribute to Planned Parenthood.
Guess I’m not as crazy as you thought.
From page 837 of EcoScience written by John Holdren in 1977:
Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.
p. 786
One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society.
p. 787-8
Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.
p. 838
In today’s world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?
carder – quite frankly, what is your point?
I could continue quoting the genius, but I think you get the picture. 1977 did a number on him.
So, James Lee prematurely met his Maker, Holdren is a high government official.
We’re in good hands.
Go carder!! Awesome!
When a member of a species believes he is a blight on the planet, he is mentally ill. When more people believe it, it becomes a social ill. Although this guy was obviously crazy, there are plenty more who think like him that don’t act out the same way. Carder’s right; some of them are in positions of authority and/or influence. And it doesn’t make them any less sick.
Hmmm….the pro-abort crowd seems to be a little quiet on this one….I wonder why?
X-GOP…what is Carder’s point???? You called him crazy and he is showing proof that his concerns are valid and yet you don’t get the point? Please tell me you’re not really that dense. Or are you just being your usual snarky self because you can’t win an argument.
Sydney – concerns that anybody who even remotely shares the same beliefs as somebody else might do the same stuff?
Who here thinks George Tiller was evil. I know somebody else that thought he was evil, and that guy is a murderer. So anyone who thinks that George Tiller was evil is somebody we should watch for murder?
I’m just not following the logic here.
Let’s start with two guys who believe that the earth is overpopulated and there needs to be a stop to it.
One guy articulates radical solutions. Bonkers-kind of stuff, like forced abortions, sterilizations, etc.
Fast forward three decades later. The other guy articulates radical solutions. Which sounds eerily like the first guy.
Yours truly facetiously stated that, gosh, I’ve heard that kind of crazy talk before, therefore, call me crazy.
You graciously obliged.
Put EcoScience next to the rant, and ta-da! Same mentality, different ranters.
So, therefore, carder isn’t so off the wall as originally posited. These two cheerios really DO sound just like each other.
*****
Now, is John Holdren going to hold a TV network building hostage? Not likely. Would he attempt to slip a little radicalism here and there in his position as Science Czar? If his boss is any indication *cough* Obama *cough*, then let’s just say a little vigilance is in order.
Okay – so many people on this board then Dr. Tiller was evil…so did the guy who murdered him. Do you think that there might be a murder coming from somebody on the board? Just following your logic here…
No X-GOP follow it through. Roeder believed Tiller was evil AND SHOULD DIE. I believe Tiller was evil but did not believe that Tiller should die. We both believed that Tiller was evil, yes you got me there! But we didn’t have the same mentality because we didn’t draw the same conclusions. Lee and Singer had the same mentality because they both believed the earth was overpopulated and that other human beings should be killed to deal with it. Same mentality because they drew the same conclusions.
Sydney –
OH, I got it now – I now see in the earlier book quotations where Singer said that he thinks that a way to reach these means is to hold a bunch of Discovery people hostage!
Are we clear?
Yes
ARE WE CLEAR?
Crystal
The difference is We on this board, regard life as all important and see it is not our place to Choose who dies. Think Pro-life…
So, of course you won’t find murders here, sorry.
Can’t really use that excuse when you’re Anti-Life to begin with.
Singer?
No wonder you’re not getting it; you can’t even get the authors right, let alone the argument.
Repeat after me: Holdren. John, Holdren.
Good grief. Looks like it’s time for Bambino to step in and explain Logic 101.
Sorry Carder, I’m the one who first said Singer and led X-GOP astray. X-GOP Holdren might not have specifically targeted the people at Discovery channel but he did agree with forced abortion, sterilization and other means of annihilating humans in order to control population control. So he and Lee are of the same mind, totally. Roeder believed in taking matters into his own hand and killing so whether it was Tiller or a boyfriend driving his girlfriend for an abortion or whoever, he is not of the same mind as us because we are against murder. period.
NOW are we crystal clear? Yeah, I doubt it too.
My bad. Ex-GOP. Sydney made me do it. :0)
Forgiven, all.
Sydney – I got it.
Two people believe in population control – one goes crazy, so the other is probably like minded.
Two other people believe in the pro-life cause, one goes crazy, so the other says that the first was never pro-life.
Yes, completely logical – I got it 100%. Thanks.