St. Patrick, Obama, and the Dubliner
The Dubliner, in Washington, DC, is the beloved Irish pub where pro-lifers congregate to inspire, conspire, and console before and after the March for Life each January as well as other meeting times throughout the year.
It is fitting, since Ireland is abortion free.
Last year President Obama violated our sacred space on St. Patrick’s Day.
A few words for President Obama from the saint himself…
I am at a loss to know whether to weep more for those they killed or those that are captured: or indeed for these men themselves whom the devil has taken fast for his slaves.
and…
You shall not murder. A homicide may not stand beside Christ. Even “He who hates his brother is to be labeled murderer.” Or, “He who does not love his brother dwells in death.” Therefore, how much more guilty is he, who has stained his own hands in the blood of the sons of God….
and this, also our prayer…
May God inspire these men sometime to come to their senses in regard to God again, so that they may repent, however latter day, of their grave crimes, namely homicide against the brothers of the Lord, and that they free these baptized women whom they have taken, so that then they may deserve to live to God and be made whole once more, here, now and for eternity.
[Top photo via the White House, middle photo via the Associated Press, bottom photo via the New York Post]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I dont understand the Obama worship. I wouldnt want to meet him or take a picture of him. Just hurry up n leave office and pray that the next prez is better. Same applies to Clinton. Some people treated him like God. Never got that.
Obama needs more than a pint of guiness to fix what ails him.
Truthseeker:
Or could it be that Obama needs more than a pint of guiness to fix what ales him. Sorry, I could not resist that!
On a more serious note that Obama had a beer at an Irish pub shows that the good life is desirable to him…it is such a profound tragedy that he and others like him actively and purposefully conspire so that unborn babies do not have the right to grow into adulthood and enjoy the same.
I’m bringing Holy Water and Blessed Salt to cleanse the place next time we get together. All the Guiness in the world won’t clean those blood-soaked hands. We need to pray for his conversion.
Ah, The Dubliner, where pro-life people get into fights.
Nothing says “sacred space” like a watering hole.
“since Ireland is abortion free.” – well that’s not exactly accurate.
“All the Guiness in the world won’t clean those blood-soaked hands” – sure, and the hands of the church are so pure and clean.
“well that’s not exactly accurate.”
Well, Ireland is one of the few developed countries with abortion criminalized, so legally it’s abortion-free. Nowhere is ever going to be actually abortion free, as in no abortions happening ever, anymore than somewhere could be free of any other type of crime.
I do think the concept of a bar being a sacred place is possibly one of the more ridiculous things I have ever heard. It’s a bar.
There are instances and circumstances under which abortion is legal in Ireland Jack.
Finding statistics seems to be a bit of a dilemma though.
Altar wine?
“There are instances and circumstances under which abortion is legal in Ireland Jack.
Finding statistics seems to be a bit of a dilemma though.”
Very few circumstances, I believe that immediate risk of death or permanent damage to health are the exceptions in the law, which I don’t think many people have an issue with (if they do have an issue with that I would argue with them). I do find it hard to consider Ireland truly “abortion free” seeing as it’s legal in England, and there’s the issue of women traveling there to obtain them (though statistics on that are difficult to obtain with any certainty).
” Altar wine?”
Ha. I think altar wine is sacred, but Guinness I am pretty sure is not.
Guinness is delicious!!! but seriously. it’s a public space. It’s a bar. Get over it.
A “watering hole” -lol. You’re dating yourself Joan. Lol, we call them honkytonks here.
Honkytonk? Yew whippersnapper, it’s a gin-mill!!
If this was Bush the libs would be screaming…Alcoholic!!!
He pretty much was heather.
Reality he admitted that…hes in recovery.
GB could have been drinking a Pepsi and people. would still scream Alcoholic!!!!
Obama admitted he was a smoker…so hes just as human as Bush:)
Alcoholic in recovery/ smoker abstaining..smoking is an addiction too!
“GB could have been drinking a Pepsi and people. would still scream Alcoholic!!!!” – seriously? I doubt it but if they had it still would have been true.
“so hes just as human as Bush:)” – not according to a few people on this site! Or places like the WorldNutDaily.
They both bleed red urinate and sneeze…they are both flawed human beings like the rest of us.
I agree heather, some wouldn’t.
I saw a picture of Dubya on tumblr with some paintings of dogs that he painted. It was cute, it quite humanized him.
Ok reality at least we can agree on that.
I know a post abortive pro choice woman who loved Bush!!! She still remains very much pro choice but stated ” I do not like Obama. He is destroying our country .” I was totally shocked! I figured shes a Bush hater all the way..i was wrong!!!
But to be fair George Bush didnt stop abortion either. Ive met a few people who dont like either one of them.
I don’t like either of them. Bush was a lousy president in some ways, and Obama in others.
Yes Jack ive heard a lot of that as well as plenty of people who thought that Obama was bad but they didnt want Romney either…they didnt vote.
A big chunk of the GOP cling to the cult of Reagan, as do a few democrat voters. Yet he wouldn’t stand a chance of even winning nomination nowadays, let alone the presidency – unless he stood as a democrat perhaps.
I see the alaskan kardashian is putting her name to a book which in part complains about the ‘over-commercialism’of xmas. It comes out…um…just before xmas. $28.99.
That’s as funny as people complaining about people trying to take the Christ out of Christmas while maxing out their credit cards.
I don’t really understand how a bar can remotely be considered a “safe space.” That kind of “they’re in OUR CLUB!!” territorialism is usually the realm of frats and gangs. Don’t go to this pub in THAT frat shirt! Don’t wear red in THIS part of town! They violated our SACRED SPACE!
Please. They didn’t violate anything and neither did Obama. They walked into a public building. It’s a bar. It’s an Irish bar on St. Patrick’s Day. Nobody owns it except the owners. Just because some pro-lifers go there once a year doesn’t mean squat.
lol thank you Alexandra. I agree completely :)
It certainly looks like a nice place, but let’s keep things in perspective here–it’s a public bar. To refer to it as ‘a sacred space’, as if it were a Church or holy ground, is more than a little bit silly. And then to accuse Obama of ‘violating’ it is a little bit of an overreaction.
He can go in all right. But he is likely to get a lot of looks like the guy standing to the left of him in that picture. Obama is not welcome in a pro-life crowd. DUH!!
And an irish pub in Washington does not mean a pro-life crowd….except during the March for Life!!!!!
“Other meeting times throughout the year” Hmmmmm…
Uhh…Ireland is no longer abortion free.
And I hate to point this out, but your pro-life movement loving bar employees look quite thrilled to be in President Obama’s company. Just throwing that out there.
Aw, did somebody you don’t like come into a PUBLIC BUSINESS you have PERSONALLY elevated to sacred status? It’s ALMOST like they broke a bunch of laws to get all your medical information and then plastered it all over the internet, making false claims about you while exploiting the sorrow of a family!!
This post says SO MUCH about how profoundly inappropriate and misguided your views on “life” are.
Amen, Sarah!
This post says SO MUCH about how profoundly inappropriate and misguided your views on “life” are.
OMG Sarah…..seriously??? You mean like my view that life begins at birth?
In fact pro-aborts find it quite ‘homey’ in places where alcohol consumption is highest. Those are the places where rapists and hookers are most comfortable too. I have never had the fortune to be at this pub during the March for Life but I’d bet the pro-aborts, rapists and hookers would all be a lot less comfortable there during the time when the March for Life crowd was there.
What did sex workers ever do to you truth??
Jack, sex “workers” are often rape victims (either by being underaged or coerced into selling their bodies for money). Do you deny that?
Why would I deny that? I probably know more prostitutes than most people, they almost invariably have had very rough lives. Why you needed to group them in with rapists, like they are victimizing people, I don’t know. They’re usually the ones being victimized.
“You mean like my view that life begins at birth?” – you mean this is the only thing you have view about life on?
“In fact pro-aborts find it quite ‘homey’ in places where alcohol consumption is highest.” – do they truthseeker? Do they really? And what is your scintillatingly scientific evidence for this?
Uhh…Ireland is no longer abortion free.
Are you admitting something about that Marie Stopes hovel (namely that it isn’t just a law-abiding health clinic that offers abortion only in the rare cases where it’s allowed to save the mother’s life)?
“Why you needed to group them in with rapists”
Jack, I thought the grouping was obvious. They are both more likely to be found around high alcohol consumption.
“In fact pro-aborts find it quite ‘homey’ in places where alcohol consumption is highest.” – do they truthseeker? Do they really? And what is your scintillatingly scientific evidence for this?
I conducted my own life-long poll of drunks in bars. When drinking alone isn’t enough they look for sex without commitments that last beyond the time it takes to get sober.
How do you know they’re ‘pro-aborts’?
How do you know they’re looking for sex?
How do you know they want sex without committment?
How do you know any of these things?
Your ‘life-long poll’ of drunks eh. Do you often get a punch in the face for asking a series of questions to everyone you assume to be drunk?
No. Not often cause I am not an easy target for drunks. I can take care of myself.
” Jack, I thought the grouping was obvious. They are both more likely to be found around high alcohol consumption.”
Yeah, and you seemed to be happy about the fact that you think that they would be less comfortable around pro-lifers. Because alienating already alienated people is a good goal? Don’t get it dude.
Jack, hookers are often underage and that they are invariably around high alcohol consumption (bar scenes and strip clubs etc.). I consider most of them to be victims. ANY hooker who is underage is a rape victim so there is also that association with rapists.
And I would say that both the prostitutes and the rapists would be less comfortable around pro-life people and the prostitutes would be less comfortable plying their trade amongst pro-lifers then they are amongst the usual bar crowd. And I say that is a good thing not because it would alienate the hookers but because it would disrupt ‘business as usual”.
Sounds to me like you sit around in bars making up life stories for those you observe truthseeker. I doubt you’re often particularly accurate. They may be people with access to children drinking away their guilt for all you know. Or finding a way to unwind after a stressful day. Why are you spending so much time in bars anyway?
“I thought the grouping was obvious” – you thinking it doesn’t make it so.
So, no sciencey type stuff then. That’s ok.
Science is one way you learn facts in life. Life’s lessons about people and behavior are also often learned through personal experience.
“I thought the grouping was obvious”
Logic and rationality make it as obvious as 1 + 1 = 2. Most people who seek out prostitutes seek out younger girls (17 year olds and not 37 year olds) Sex with a 17 year old is statutory rape where I live. The association IS obvious and undeniable.
“Jack, hookers are often underage and that they are invariably around high alcohol consumption (bar scenes and strip clubs etc.). I consider most of them to be victims. ANY hooker who is underage is a rape victim so there is also that association with rapists.”
I agree with this. I would also add that most “street prostitutes” are raped often, because they are rarely sober and I don’t believe people under significant influence of drugs and alcohol can meaningfully consent to sex.
“And I would say that both the prostitutes and the rapists would be less comfortable around pro-life people and the prostitutes would be less comfortable plying their trade amongst pro-lifers then they are amongst the usual bar crowd. And I say that is a good thing not because it would alienate the hookers but because it would disrupt ‘business as usual”.”
This is where you go off the deep end a bit imo. Rapists don’t pick out victims according to political leaning, and there are some unfortunate implications in your thinking there. And I don’t think that prostitutes ask for religious or political affiliation before picking up johns. There are a certain percentage of creepy men who pay for sex in any population, yes even among people who claim to be pro-life. Prostitutes know this better than anyone.
This conversation has gotten quite ridiculous imo.
The fact that rapists are associated with prostitution is not ridiculous. It is a blight on society and a serious sickness that needs treatment.
That wasn’t what I was calling ridiculous. I quite agree with that statement.
“I agree with this. I would also add that most “street prostitutes” are raped often, because they are rarely sober and I don’t believe people under significant influence of drugs and alcohol can meaningfully consent to sex.”
We found agreement here Jack. Notice your association with prostitutes and alcohol and rape :;
“Life’s lessons about people and behavior are also often learned through personal experience” – so you’ve lots of experience with prostitutes and rapists then?
“Most people who seek out prostitutes seek out younger girls (17 year olds and not 37 year olds)” – and you know this how?
” “Most people who seek out prostitutes seek out younger girls (17 year olds and not 37 year olds)” – and you know this how?”
He’s probably right about that one. The average age of a prostitute in Miami, male or female, is about 14.
Might also have to do with the fact that many street prostitutes die young. Drug addicts often don’t live very long.
Reality, I explained this already but I will say it again for your benefit. I know this from personal experience hanging out in bars and gambling establishments and the places that ‘johns’ and ‘drunks’ frequent. I did not partake in their ‘affairs’ but I was never afraid to ‘engage’ them. It is not easy and can cause a lot of friction cause I do not ‘fit’ with their crowd; but so be it.
So why do you spend so much time hanging out in bars and gambling dens? The less salubrious ones at that! Are you in the Salvation Army or something?
No, I do have a history of staying out all night long and heavy drinking. I was cursed with the ability to blow .20 and you wouldn’t even know I was drunk. That and I have enjoyed playing live music since I was in high school.
Aw, what gives you the need to do that? And gamble?
How often do you drink truth? That’s worrisome. If drinking gets out of control you should seek help.
Didn’t need to. Just felt like I could. And I used to gamble for the rush. I quit ‘gambling’ many years ago and now I only place bets once or twice a year either for enjoyment (a day on the infield at Churchill Downs) or occasionally to make some extra money if the timing is right.
Jack, I quit drinking to ‘excess’ over a decade ago. Now I drink two or three beers each night when I get home from work. I only go back to the bar scenes to play music.
“I only place bets…..or occasionally to make some extra money if the timing is right” – that sounds like addiction justification 101 I’m afraid. Isn’t it called ‘chasing your losses’ or something?
Good! Cheers to not consuming addictive substances in excess!
“I only place bets…..or occasionally to make some extra money if the timing is right” – that sounds like addiction justification 101 I’m afraid.
It can ‘sound’ any way you want to hear it. The truth isn’t determined by how something ‘sounds’ to you. I haven’t placed a bet in over a year.
And Cheers to not condoning pro-aborts in the killing of unborn children! I’d toast that with Obama!! In fact, that is probably why the patrons at this Irish pub are all smiling. Cause that is what they were toasting… lol
Cheers to that too. But I really doubt Obama would drink to that one lol.
“It can ‘sound’ any way you want to hear it. The truth isn’t determined by how something ‘sounds’ to you.” – yet you said you placed bets to make some extra money – that’s a classic addiction behavior.
“I haven’t placed a bet in over a year.” – well I hope you can keep that up :-)
I have every intention of going to Churchill Downs for Derby weekend this year :) Why would you hope I don’t make it there?
Maybe because you talk about getting a rush from gambling and that sets off alarm bells? You know yourself better than random internet peoples, of course. Just watch out for that stuff man. I’ve never tried gambling because I am compulsive with everything and I know it would be a problem, I hope you take care of yourself.
That’s not what I said. I’m more than happy for you to attend, I hope you have a wonderful day.
Given the things you’ve said however, I’d advise you to stay well away from the betting.
Reality,Advice from somebody who would advise killing children in the womb… Seriously??? I am more likely to double down because you think it is a bad idea :)
Oh don’t do that! You might not be able to afford to attend the next march for life.
Maybe because you talk about getting a rush from gambling and that sets off alarm bells?
In all my gambling experience there is no bigger ‘rush’ than watching ‘your’ horse coming down the stretch. Just sharing my perspective. No worries. I have been around the block more than a few times. But by all means don’t attempt to do this yourself, let me know if you plan on going there and I can help you out :)
Oh don’t do that! You might not be able to afford to attend the next march for life.
Great idea!I will definitely make a wager with all proceeds designated towards a March for Life fund.
Lol, I sincerely hope as my internet amigo, that if I asked you to take me gambling you’d slap sense into my addictive head.
“I will definitely make a wager with all proceeds…” – oh dear, there it is again.
No, Navi. Believe it or not, everything in the pro-choice movement is not a conspiracy. And besides, you just said it yourself: they provide rare abortions in cases where the mother’s health is at risk….therefore making them what? Oh yes, NOT ABORTION FREE.
No, Navi. Believe it or not, everything in the pro-choice movement is not a conspiracy.
I never said it is. Questioning whether a dubious, ideologically-driven organization is complying with the law is hardly unreasonable given the track record of similar clinics in other countries.
And besides, you just said it yourself: they provide rare abortions in cases where the mother’s health is at risk….therefore making them what? Oh yes, NOT ABORTION FREE.
Abortion has always been available in Ireland to save the mother’s life. The part I’m questioning is why they’re “no longer” abortion-free (what exactly has changed that would cause you to make this distinction).
This conversation got….bizarre.
I go to bars all the time. It’s a great place to grab a bite and a drink after work, to catch up with friends in the central midtown area before we disperse to our corners of the city (me – way uptown – them – way out in Brooklyn, etc). I also frequently grab a burger and a beer at the pub near my apartment, and I read or talk to the bartender while I eat (latest news: he had parent-teacher conferences last Thursday; all of his kids got stellar performance reports). If anybody ever came up to me and tried to talk to me about my sexual activity or anything like that, or just act as a personal confessional, I’d be seriously creeped out. It sounds like there is some serious projection and assumption going on.
Ts so you gamble once in a while and drink….so friggin what? I used to drink and once on a while I still do. I’m also a smoker and I cuss. Being pro life doesn’t mean one must be perfect. We just don’t agree with those who don’t mind killing children in the womb.
Heather, I’ll drink to that!
So what’s worse, obama in a bar where some self-appointed, self-righteous mob meets now and then or robert mugabe in the vatican being greeted warmly by the pope?
Biden and Pelosi in the vatican is worse cause they call themselves catholic
Ts..cheers!:)
So you don’t want to answer the question truthseeker. Fair enough.
I guess pro choicers have this notion that we are all a bunch of goody 2 shoes who sit at home and knit in rocking chairs. I assure you my life is a far cry from boring. I have a social life with family and friends. I have an occasional drink. I smoke and curse ( working on it ) I go to parties and I’ve been told I’m fun to be around. I go to drag races the zoo and other places. I even buy a lotto ticket from time to time. I even maintain friendships with liberals. They just know where I stand on abortion. I also blast my stereo while driving and i dance.
I have knitted. I have sat in a rocking chair. I didn’t do both at once though!
Yes, dinner in a hippy/artist enclave this coming weekend.
One or two glasses of red nearly every night.
Cigarettes, yes.
“…curse ( working on it )” – what, getting better at it?
Yes, lotto very now and then.
Yes, lots of liberal friends :-)
Boombastic beats whilst driving.
Dance when no-one is watching.
Went to high school with the NIN..blast their music in the car along with ACDC and rock n roll:)
So what’s worse, obama in a bar where some self-appointed, self-righteous mob meets now and then or robert mugabe in the vatican being greeted warmly by the pope?
Reality, Clarify what you mean by self-righteous. Is it self-righteous for a person to fight against your right to tear babies from the womb?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-righteous
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-righteous
Heather, I just picked up a Johnny Cash cover of a NIN song.
In “Reality”
Merriam Webster says the opposite of righteousness is corruption. Where there is more corruption then there would be less righteousness. Is a person more ‘corrupted’ when they support tearing babies from the womb?
“Closer” – fabulous. Works on so many levels :-)
You went to high school with Trent Reznor Heather? Jealous.
I didn’t come down in the last shower truthseeker.
‘righteousness’ has a significantly different meaning to ‘self-righteous’.
‘corrupt’ is one of a myriad of near antonyms of ‘righteousness’.
If you don’t want to answer the question just say so.
” Yes, lotto very now and then.”
I will never get the appeal of Scratch-its and lottery. I’ve never done either because I fear being compulsive about it, but it just looks like throwing money away. I’d rather buy a pack of smokes.
Reality, Which is worse. Definitely Obama. Sponsoring and cozying up to the abortion industry. That kind of barbarism is probably even below Mugabe’s idea if moral behaviour. How many women did Mugabe help to put on gurnees and tear their babies out of them?
Gee, why am I not surprised at your answer.
You are aware of how many people (walking, talking, autonomous) mugabe has slaughtered aren’t you?
Once again it’s obvious that anti-choicers would rather vote for an anti-choice Idi Amin type character than a pro-choice Nelson Mandela type-character. The anti-choicers’ fetus fetish persists. Post-birthers don’t matter.
Reality, I’ll post again and maybe your eyes will be opened long enough to see the other victims of abortion. I’ll put the name of the other victims in quotes as a hint.
How many “women” did Planned Parenthood help to put on gurnees and tear their babies out of them? Who stands shoulder to shoulder in lock step with the largest abortion provider in the US….Barack Hussein Obama, that is who. Only a scum-bag snake-oil salesmen thug of a sheister stoops that low.
“How many “women” did Planned Parenthood help to put on gurnees…” - as many as asked them to. So, not victims.
I don’t recall mugabe’s victims asking to be hacked to death. Do you?
“Who stands shoulder to shoulder in lock step with the largest abortion provider in the US” – yes, and the Bushes and Reagan did so much to stop abortion didn’t they? Obama simply supports womens’ right to choose. He’s never been dishonest about it.
Truth, seriously not asking to be flippant but is there anyone you hate more than Obama?
Oh don’t worry Jack, truthseeker will probably hate the next president just as much. I can’t see him being a huge fan of Hillary.
Meh. I don’t like any politicians. Just dont get why Obama is literally satan when he’s not any worse than most other American politician.
Hi I’m Jack and I cant type.
Still more lucid than some I see here Jack :-)
Well, truth be told. When Joe Scheidler of the Pro Life Action League walks into the Dubliner, he gets all the crowd to cheer him. Indeed Obama cannot hold the hem of the heroes who have lined those walls and toasted to life with their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. The president is a poser. It is just sad so many people refuse to see him for who he is – a man who never knew his natural father and therefore refuses to honor his Heavenly Father who gave him life.
“Meh. I don’t like any politicians. Just dont get why Obama is literally satan when he’s not any worse than most other American politician.”
Jack, He stands up for PBA and the BAIPA. You just don’t like to see the bad in people. I could keep going on with the list, and have on other threads, but
those two only are glaring examples of why Obama definitely IS a lot worse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2013/mar/18/bible-satan-look-like-barack-obama-poll
As you were saying, Jack? :)
Ts..johnny cash? How cool! Jack yes i did. No reason to be jealous though. I know Joe Walsh too!!
“How many “women” did Planned Parenthood help to put on gurnees…” - as many as asked them to. So, not victims.
Reality, you are full of …. If a minor asks a drug dealer for a fix that is supposed take away all their troubles and that ‘fix’ leads to their health and life being destroyed; is that person a victim?
Tis yourself who is ‘full of it’ truthseeker.
There is no comparison between the use of illicit drugs by minors and women having the fundamental right to terminate unwanted or unviable pregnancies.
The obvious comparison is that both are promised a ‘fix’ and both end up with screwed up health. Both make ‘bad’ choices and both suffer.
“Jack, He stands up for PBA and the BAIPA. You just don’t like to see the bad in people. I could keep going on with the list, and have on other threads, but
those two only are glaring examples of why Obama definitely IS a lot worse.”
Obama is not worse. He’s about the same as most Dems in regards to the abortion issue. Clinton would do about the same as him if she were in office.
“The obvious comparison is that both are promised a ‘fix’ and both end up with screwed up health.” – well that’s wrong.
“Both make ‘bad’ choices and both suffer” – therefore this statement is too.
heather,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
Obama is not worse. He’s about the same as most Dems in regards to the abortion issue.
Jack, He received more Planned Parenthood campaign contributions then all the other Dems combined. There is a reason for that. He spent his entire political career ‘in bed’ with Planned Parenthood. He is abortion uber alles.
“Truth, seriously not asking to be flippant but is there anyone you hate more than Obama?”
I don’t hate Obama. I hate what he does. What he does fiscally. What he does to our culture. His dishonesty. I hate his extreme support of the legalization of tearing babies from their mother’s wombs.
” Jack, He received more Planned Parenthood campaign contributions then all the other Dems combined. There is a reason for that. He spent his entire political career ‘in bed’ with Planned Parenthood. He is abortion uber alles.”
Well honestly I think that PP would have thrown their money into someone else if he had refused them. The pro-life movement has gained a lot of ground in recent years, they needed political backing. I’m pretty sure most Dems would hop in bed if he rolled out, it’s politically expedient for them.
” I don’t hate Obama. I hate what he does. What he does fiscally. What he does to our culture. His dishonesty. I hate his extreme support of the legalization of tearing babies from their mother’s wombs.”
Well yeah, I get you. His abortion policies are disgusting, and his economics questionable at best. I don’t know what you mean by culture though, I have a feeling I would disagree with some of it. And I honestly don’t think he lies anymore than any other rat politician. They are all terrible liars, I’m sick of it.
I hate the fact Obama he would not allow Stupak to put Hyde like language into Obamacare. Typical Chicago style pay-to-play politics. I hate cronyism in the White House and that was just one part of his payback to Planned Parenthood. I hate the fact that he would name Cecile Richards to an HHS Czar position overseeing government funded Obamacare subsidized fetal development reduction services. The guy is a non-stop nightmare of a president. I hope we survive not just his second term; but the aftermath of enduring 8 years of things like these. Lord have mercy on us and on the whole world.
It’ll be at least 16 years truthseeker, don’t forget Hillary is up next :-)
Obama spends like a drunken sailor and sees no problem with spending $1.46 for every $1 in revenues. Leaving our children and grandchildren to suffer the effects of his wreckless spending. Those crocodile tears the Dems are all crying together about the pain of the sequester. While the next generation has spend 50 cents of every dollar they have… just to pay down interest on the debt he is leaving to them. Lord have mercy on us.
Then get the revenue levels back up where they used to be!
“wreckless spending” – that would be sensible spending then.
“It’ll be at least 16 years truthseeker, don’t forget Hillary is up next”
You mean Hillary Benghazidham-Clinton ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGLQ63qUHHo
“Then get the revenue levels back up where they used to be! ”
When government gets out of the way of businesses and people who pay taxes. And when government implements policies to drive energy costs down instead of policies designed to force people onto green energy by making other fuel energy prices skyrocket. That is a revenue killer right there.
Indeed, Hillary’s responses to being asked politically motivated, loaded questions demonstrate yet again why she will make a fine president.
Like her response…and I quote; “the fact is that we had four dead Americans; was it because of a protest or because of four guys went out for a walk one night because they thought they would go and kill some Americans; what difference, at this time, does it make?”
wtf…very emotional…maybe she hadn’t fully recovered from falling and banging her head. She is still actually sticking to the story/talking points about this having sprung from some kind of protest? At this point everybody but the inner circle of the Obama Administration understands this was a planned and coordinated assault with shoulder fired rockets and mortars. As Senator Ron Johnson stated’ “this information is not hard to ascertain”. And she is still confused about it??
“She is still actually sticking to the story/talking points about this having sprung from some kind of protest?” – no she’s not.
“As Senator Ron Johnson stated’ “this information is not hard to ascertain”. – it was quite clear why this wasn’t ascertained in the immediate aftermath.
“And she is still confused about it??” – far from it.
Yet another statement by you which makes it abundantly clear why you are justified in sticking with your chosen monicker of truthseeker. Toil away.
It was inappropriate for her to say it doesn’t matter why they were killed..especially as part of an attempt to justify/excuse the State Departments incorrect talking points. That was in really poor taste.
So you suffer from selective hearing too truthseeker.
No, I listen fairly well but I do suffer posting with a liberal drone.
That’s not what she said. What you need to do is listen more carefully as well as listen to the sentences each side of her words, the question she was asked as well as the context of the topic which her answer addressed.
Perhaps if you listened to more ‘liberal drone’ you’d be able to change your monicker to truthfoundit!
That whole diatribe was her feigning emotion to avoid a conversation about the State Departments ridiculously misleading talking points. But if your understanding of the whole scandal is somehow in agreement with Hillary’s “who cares about the talking points being incorrect, why does it matter?”; then my advice to you is…keep seeking.
“Hillary’s “who cares about the talking points being incorrect, why does it matter?” – and now you’re just making stuff up. Seriously, that’s no way to get to the truth.
Hillary will not be our next president…never.
TS thanks for the hook up awesome!!
“and now you’re just making stuff up.
Then you must believe the video of her testimony to Ron Johnson is just made up stuff too then.