After all, sex traffickers need Planned Parenthood, too
First, read my previous post, “Planned Parenthood involved in sex trafficking cover-ups?,” because this is Part II.
Let’s agree with news reports that Lila Rose’s group Live Action apparently engaged in a sting of several Planned Parenthood abortion clinics around the country - at least 12 – from January 11-15. Here was that alleged sting, according to CBS:
[A] man alleging to be a sex trafficker sought to speak confidentially with a clinic employee and then requested information regarding health services for sex workers, including some who he said were minors and in the U.S. illegally.
What “information” was the trafficker requesting? How to get an abortion for that 12-yr-old Michigan runaway he kidnapped? What to do about the smuggled Asian 16-yr-old who has contracted syphilis? Would it be possible to bring the entire caravan of girls in for group Depo shots?
Lila pretty much admitted to the Associated Press that Live Action did conduct such a sting, and she has video:
“The story that speaks loudest will be in the evidence,” she said. “I can’t comment until we release the visual evidence.”
So the Big Question is how did the PP workers respond to the sex trafficking poser’s “requested information”? What’s on the video?
Time will tell.
Now imagine you’re Cecile Richards, PP’s CEO, who only learns way after the fact that several of her clinics have been punked. She’s not sure what goods Live Action has, particularly because she knows it’s quite possible the PP employees involved have been lying through their teeth about how they answered the pimp, hoping against hope they weren’t caught on tape.
But Cecile has been through this with Lila and Live Action too many times before than she’d care to recall, so she’s expecting the worst.
So Cecile and her legal team decide to rush a letter to US Attorney General Eric Holder, belatedly notifying him of this sex trafficker, which is what each of the 12 PP mills should have done in the first place but didn’t.
Then Cecile and her PR team decide the best strategy when bad news is forthcoming is to announce it herself.
So she did that, too, finding an obviously friendly reporter (and photographer whose previous job must have been at Glamour Shots) attempting to portray PP as the innocent victim of evil pro-life ne’er do wells who just won’t leave PP alone.
Now enter pro-abort bloggers, jumping in to cover for PP even if unsure what’s going on. Word to the wise: Blind trust is irresponsible and stupid.
But whatever, now we see how far the other side will go, which is to say, hey, sex slaves need PP, too. Jodi Jacobson, editor-in-chief of RH Reality Check, asked several good questions. The problem is she forgot the basic rule: Never ask a question you don’t know the answer to. We shall see if Jodi’s questions come back to bite her…
What purpose does such a hoax serve? Does it… [e]xamine the policies and conditions that might exacerbate sex trafficking of minors? Help get victims of sex trafficking shelter, legal help….urgently needed medical care?
If such a hoax were to expose PP as enablers of the sex trafficking trade, the answer to Jacobson’s questions would be yes, yes, yes, and yes. We shall see.
Jacobson continued, emphasis hers…
Victims of sex trafficking, after all, also need sexual health services because they are effectively being raped regularly and are more likely to contract sexually transmitted infections and experience unintended pregnancies.
So Jodi is arguing that secretly and illegally treating victims of sex trafficking only to hand them back over to their pimps is a good thing.
And that’s how far the other side will go to prop abortion.
Stay tuned.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
The “other side” kills children (unborn) by the hundreds of millions and never loses sleep over it.
Their concern for the welfare of children is a bit, shall we say, unconvincing.
Jacobson is only following that all too familiar pro-abort defense mechanism: since child sex-slaves are going to have sex anyway, they need to be safe about it.
What always gets me and galls me whenever the abortionists express concern for children or young women is that they would have killed all of them as unborn children just a few short years ago.
Are they completely unable to see the painful disconnect with reality in all of their “thinking”?
Jill is right the pro aborts are going crazy. I “shared” Jill’s post on my blog and my favorite anonymous can’t stop commenting about Lila Rose. This shows how frightened they are of her and her camera. They are working overtime to discredit her.
Praying to see the FBI investigate, with Richards thinking PPA be exonerated by a crooked team (and sheltered under Holder), only to have godly agents find a trail that leads all the way back to her and her entire executive staff involvement in international sex-trafficking rings.
“So Jodi is arguing that secretly and illegally treating victims of sex trafficking only to hand them back over to their pimps is a good thing.
And that’s how far the other side will go to prop abortion.”
wow. Just wow. :(
Not sure if that girl in the photo is a real runaway or just dressed up for the picture, but how heart wrenching! She symbolizes so many millions of young girls being trafficked.
God have mercy!
my largest problem thus far is, how do you get pro-aborts to comprehend that a person is the SAME ENTITY at every stage in their lives? I’m like, banging my head against a brick wall trying to get this through, and I just can’t.
And to go from “It was violating my bodily autonomy! It was the enemy, it was MY RIGHT to kil it.” and to think that some day these women say they want to become mothers themselves? How does one get out of the mindset of “This one is evil. This one is oppressing me. I must kill it.” to “I’m choosing to have this one. I’ll call him Mark and love him.”
I’m just at such a loss right now. I can’t do this anymore.
Hi Xalisae I have always said pro-aborts are schizoprenic if I want a baby ”it’s a baby”, if I don’t want a baby ”it’s a product of conception”, a “fetus”, a “parasite” and a “blob of tissue”. Sick, sick, sick. Can’t have it both ways.
These girls are sex SLAVES, here illegally, under false pretenses, against thief will. Rose exposes PP, the enablers. And Rose is criticized for it by people who champion women’s rights!?!?
Where was the FREEDOM to come to this country and be a hidden slave?
Where was the CHOICE to contract stds?
Where was the LOVE to lie down with wh knows who, who knows how many times a day?
Where was the JUSTICE for girls abused and imprisoned?
None of that came from PP. Sounds like they looked the other way. Abortion solves what exactly for these imprisoned slaves? It serves to make them stay in the place their slaveowners (sex traffickers is too kind) have them trapped.
Sex slaves are taken from their homes and country with the promise of a better life. Instead they are imprisoned slaves giving their bodies against their will. Can any of the women reading this even imagine such an existence???
If Rose’s work can set even one girl free, then PP supporters need to shut up and get behind her. There is NO excuse for PP’s behavior. None!
Go, Lila Rose! May your work sting the conscience of America and go toward real justice and love for these girls.
Prolifer, I agree. Though what we used to think of as schizoprenia is now called a split personality. It perfectly describes most who aren’t pro-life. Their children are valuable. Others’ aren’t worthy of their thoughts.
X,
Don’t give up on them! Love, example, and prayer, lady, that’s what we need to get us through this. It is possible to get there, but it does take patience, love, and His interference.
Abortion advocacy groups have been working overtime for so long to convince us all that there is a magical property to oxygen which imbues us with personhood and therefore naturally endowed rights. It’s been too easy for them to hide the reality, and it’s too tempting for society as a whole to accept the lie. But we will get through to them. If only because hey, we’re raising more of the future adults! ;)
What has me so boggled lately is, WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?
Where is the women’s liberation movement screaming at the top of their lungs at dear ol’ Cece for allowing a MAN to abuse young girls?!? Where are the feministas tearing into the organizations that reduce women down to fear and take advantage of their vulnerability?
Why why why is it that when sex comes up, the women’s liberation movement seems to think that in order to be equal with men, we have to like being abused???
What a horrible standard to set for oneself.
LOL, Cranky! love it! Wish you could get secretly hired by PP to be the head of their ad campaigns. Truth in advertising to be sure.
The local media will look the other way…that’s true BUT you can bet the American people will notice this ever growing list of inconsistencies and lies that PP perpetuates.
I say give them enough rope….
Can’t wait to see the Live Action film…
Cranky, as always, fabulous. Can you please email me the largest jpg or png files you have of those graphics (up to 1000 pixels wide)? jill@jillstanek.com. I’d like to reserve them for proper use at the right time. I’ll certainly give you the HT. Thanks.
X, and all of us, be not discouraged.
Moses once killed an Egyptian and buried him in the sand.
Paul held everyone’s cloaks while they stoned Stephen to death.
Peter pretended not to know Jesus while he was being beaten and interrogated.
All redeemed.
There’s hope for all of us.
Cranky Catholic – Is it okay if I use your posters on my blog? Crediting you, of course!
Glenn
A great Voris episode
http://www.youtube.com/user/RealCatholicTV?feature=mhum#p/a/u/2/B0qyoP8z0gg
Xalisae said – I’m just at such a loss right now. I can’t do this anymore.
Take a break, and don’t carry the burden. There’s a 99% chance those you are arguing with are post-abortive . They aren’t in their right minds. (Might make a really good study…) Ask them about their abortions. If they refuse, ask them why. If there is no problem with abortion, then they should be free to talk about it. If they don’t want to, then why are they advocating a procedure they’re either too ashamed of, or they’ve never personally experienced?
Be compassionate and non-condemning, always leaving an opening. Some may be hardened. If they don’t want to go there at all – leave them. Don’t continue the conversation – they forfeited their credibility, and aren’t ready for a conversation.
I seem to recall that there was a regular commenter here who worked in CPS. Does contact with AG Holder’s office by PP execs fulfill all mandated reporting obligations? Aren’t there state laws that require notification of suspicion to local law enforcement/cps that each clinic should have complied with PROMPTLY before HQ put it together that they may have been punked? I’m not understanding how contact with the feds absolves PP from compliance with other mandated reporting obligations UNLESS they are somehow all fulfilled by contact with the AG.
Rules for savvy young whistleblowers:
1. When recruiting undercover “activists” from your campus’ Young Republicans Association, train them well in the art of subtlety. If your pimp’s getup looks like something from Night at the Roxbury (James O’Keefe), try again. If the media spotlight’s trained on your hitched-up hemline (Hannah Giles), try again. If your script betrays your white middle class naivete (Hey! I’m a SEX TRAFFICKER! My name’s HARRY! This is my SEX SLAVE! SEE?? Sex slave! She’s wearing fishnets and black mascara! Got it???), contact a non-profit that actually seeks to help sex workers and get a clue.
2. Re-read “Rules for Radicals” and remind yourself that Saul Alinsky worked directly with community members to tackle social problems. Ask yourself if it’s ethical to exploit the image of young women forced into the sex trade for political gain without doing anything explicit to end sex trafficking, or gaining the insight of sex workers before conducting your ”expose.”
Hi Megan!
Cranky Catholic – I don’t know who the girl in your first photo is, but the girl in the second one is named Swan Brooner. She’s currently still in high school and is living with her sister because both her parents died from unrelated causes. She’s a real kid and doesn’t deserve to have her picture used as an example of a supposedly sexually active/abused kid just because her mother put her in beauty pageants when she was little and she was the subject of a documentary. If I were Swan and I came across your picture, I’d be embarrassed and appalled.
Hang in there, Xalisae. Sometimes they know you’re right but they can’t bring themselves to admit it.
Megan: If the ACORN workers in the O’Keefe/Giles sting had had any sense, they would have said, “Yeah, very funny, guys. Go away.” Instead they had no issue with the thought of helping someone who said he wanted to employ underage girls as prostitutes.
If Planned Parenthood would report cases of girls who they knew or suspected to be victimized by sex trafficking, they would be doing something to end it for at least a few girls. They’re a supposed health care organization and have a responsibility to report these things. If they’re not, that’s their own fault.
Do you or do you not believe that groups with a legal obligation to report suspected sex trafficking should have to report it?
““The story that speaks loudest will be in the evidence,” she said. “I can’t comment until we release the visual evidence.””
Translation: “I and my staff are busy trying to find a way to dishonestly edit these tapes to make PP look bad. I realize that this scandal broke days ago, but we need more time! But once we do finish our dishonest editing job, these tapes are going to be damning I tell you, damning!”
At this point it has taken Ms. Rose longer to release the “evidence” than it took PP to contact authorities, an amount of time that Stanek dishonestly characterizes as “belated”. Let’s see PP exposed this scam at the beginning of the week, with the announcement that they had contacted the FBI a WEEK earlier, which means they contacted the FBI while Rose was still conducting her scam.
Cranky, that first poster you posted, “Protecting child molesters for 90 years”… that’s powerful. PP isn’t content with murdering babies, they also want to make sure child rapists go undetected and unpunished. That’s the truth America needs to wake up to.
Pro-aborts don’t want to be blamed for serial killers or aiding and abetting child molesters and rapists. Wow, I’m just so durn suprised at their lack of character. You’d think people that advocate for the killing of tiny, helpless children would have some scruples.
No child deserves to be dressed as an unrecognizable prostitot, no matter WHO your parents are.
@Cranky,
“No child deserves to be dressed as an unrecognizable prostitot, no matter WHO your parents are.”
But that child deserves to have her picture used for partisan political purposes, implying that she IS a prostitute? Rationalize it all you want, but the fact remains you are victimizing this child just as much, if not more than her parents did.
Cranky Catholic,
I’ve already used your excellent posters in my new post, which also links to this page:
http://sanityinanupsidedownworld.blogspot.com/2011/01/planned-parenthood.html
I agree with you that NO child should be dressed like a prostitute for some stupid “beauty” competition. It just encourages the perverts.
Cranky: No, no one does. But this is a girl who never asked to be in the public eye. Her mother allowed HBO to make a documentary about her when she was four and five. If you were a teenage girl in high school, would you want to find out that a picture of you as a little kid was being used to imply that you were sexually abused, or looked like the sort of kid who would be sexually abused? Using this picture isn’t going to end child beauty pageants or do anything except possibly humiliate Swan Brooner, who was put in pageants and filmed for a documentary through no action or fault of her own.
JohnnyC: Sorry, LiveAction always releases their unedited tapes as well as the edited versions.
@Marauder
If Rose isn’t busy deceptively editing the tapes, why has it taken her a week to release them? If without dishonest editing they show what she claims, why not release them now? Sure no one cares what color the waiting room is, but why not let the news agencies covering this story right now decide what parts are relevant to their viewers?
When Dateline did their ‘to catch a predator’ series, did Johnny C reprimand them for not airing the footage more quickly? No. He’s upset because it’s LiveAction. I’m so sad for all the embarrassement that the poor little abortionists must endure. I’m playing the world’s smallest violin for all of you, lol!
Cranky, and others, you can filter a photograph in ‘shop so that it looks like a cartoon instead of being so recognizable as a specific person. That would solve the issue. And I don’t think you’re ‘victimizing the child as much as the parents’ at all because after all, they’re beauty pageants. It may be distasteful, but not as bad as PP aborting the children concieved in rape then sending underage mothers back to their abusers. But nice to see even more pro-choice hypocrisy. Maybe they want to talk to Cecile about who victimizes whom.
@Ninek
Unlike Rose and LiveAction, the target of Dateline’s actions were actual child predators. They didn’t use callously use the issue of sex trafficking of minor children as a hook for an unrelated political agenda. If Rose were going after actual sex predators, I’d applaud her work, but I see no indication she give’s a rat’s patootie about the issue, save it’s possible usefulness in forwarding her political agenda. Does LiveAction care at all about actual sex trafficking of underage children?
You are right, though Cranky isn’t “victimizing the child as much as the parents”, he is victimizing that child even more so. It can be assumed that the parent has a different view of pageants, and thinks they benefit their child, while it is clear that any harm or benefit to the child doesn’t matter to Cranky. In fact, it seems clear to me that the child doesn’t matter to Cranky at all only the possible political usefulness of misrepresenting their image.
In fact, it seems clear to me that the child doesn’t matter to Cranky at all only the possible political usefulness of misrepresenting their image.
This. X100. When I saw Swan’s picture used in that poster by Cranky Catholic my stomach clenched. That poor girl was manipulated by her parents and thrust into the spotlight by no fault of her own. If that wasn’t bad enough her documentary was aired over and over, until she became recognizable by many. Now we have this image where it is insinuated that she is sexually abused and possibly diseased. And we will all gleefully share this “clever” image on multiple blogs now and in the future! Hurrah! Let’s disregard Swan’s feelings and privacy and thrust her out into the public again in an appalling and negative, also untrue, light! She didn’t deserve to be dressed as a prostitute (definitely recognizable), and she doesn’t deserve to be in that poster, either. :(
Ugh.
I actually got to thinking about the issue of the poster of the “beauty queen,” and I agree that we should not be abusing her more by that poster, and I dropped it from my post. I think the first poster is excellent, though.
Where does the first picture come from?
I suspect Lila is waiting to release the videos because she loves watching PP squirm. I know I would.
Thanks, Glenn. :)
And Johnny C doesn’t care about the lives of young women who he will let be victimized in order to keep killing children for profit. What’s worse? A living child dressed up for a ridiculous pageant? Or a dead child thrown into a trash dumpster? Get your priorities in order, abortion lovers.
Ninek doesn’t care about child victims of sexual trafficking, aside from the usefulness of their plight to attack PP. She doesn’t care who she uses or abuses for her political purposes. Note how she talks about dressing a child up for a pageant but not about adding text to that child’s photo’s claiming she is a diseased child prostitute.
So, Ninek, would you further victimize a child, caught up in a sex trafficking ring, who becomes pregnant by her rapists, by forcing her to carry this child to term, even putting her health at risk? Tell me again, who cares about living children, hypocrite.
JohnnyC, do you have any idea how few abortions are done for health reasons?
Also, what, unborn babies aren’t really alive?
johnny C, how is the child in the womb of a child sex worker not a human being based on the fact that her father is a rapist? Since when do we kill children for the crimes of their fathers?
I think from the vast majority of women who say “Abortion hurt me” (and guess what, even my pro-choice friends who aborted say “Abortion hurt me”) why would you want to put a child through that kind of emotional distress? Its an awful thing that there are those who rape children. I guess it stems from us not viewing children as having their own distinct worth but acting as if their worth comes from what they can do for us (hmmm… wonder where THAT viewpoint comes from? Sounds a lot like pro-choice) But how would abortion undo the rape already committed on that child sex worker? It doesn’t. It just kills her innocent baby and victimizes and traumatizes her further.
And don’t drone on about “living children” Johnny C. You’re either a hypocrite yourself or a complete dolt. Read a biology book. Like right now.
ninek, what if that was your daughter in that poster, dressed up in a halloween costume or something, along with text insinuating that she is sexually abused and has sexually transmitted diseases?
Of course abortion is worse, but that doesn’t make the poster right.
And I’m pro-life, by the way.
Of course I’d be mad, Len, but my daughter would be alive for me to be mad about. Abortion lovers who get mad about small stuff while advocating for child murder are bigger hypocrites than vegetarians wearing leather boots. Johnny C can call me all the names he wants, but the proof is in the pile of bodies at the bottom of the landfill. Planned Parenthood kills children for profit. Any lawful activity that exposes PP’s many crimes against humanity and brings them down is good. Lila Rose has not broken any laws.
Forcing a child who’s been raped to carry her baby? That’s such a load of bs. One of the teens at the Walk for Life last year was the child of a 14 year old. Did she deserve to die because her mother was abused? How does killing an innocent baby undo a rape? It doesn’t, it just compounds the trauma for the abused victim. The baby has a right to it’s life. Killing the child doesn’t punish the rapist or help the rape victim. Besides which, everyone knows Cecile didn’t get rich killing rapists’ children since they make up less than a fraction of one percent of all PP abortions.
I know, ninek. Like I said, I am pro-life. But I will also speak out for children outside the womb who are victimized, even if it is in a small way. like the way Cranky Catholic has victimized this young girl. Just because some abuses are less horrific or ugly than others does not mean we should ignore them. Or mock the victims by misrepresenting and demeaning what they have been through
I agree Len that it’s wrong to use the photo, but I think our pro-abort trolls don’t know how to prioritize.
Johnny C and his pro-abortion friends remind me of a story from a woman last year during 40 Days for Life. It was a rainy day. A pro-life woman was standing with an umbrella and had a toddler with her. Another woman came out of the abortion mill (presumably an employee or a deathscort) and berated her. “What kind of mother are you bringing your child out in the rain?!” she yelled. The mother immediately saw the irony and hypocrisy in the other woman’s outrage. What kind of mother are you to lead other women to slaughter their children in cold blood and then criticize another mother for being outdoors in a little falling rain?
These last 10 days or so, we have seen the abortionists nearly come unglued over Kermit’s crimes and the LiveAction sting. They take no responsibility whatsover. They are more concerned with their reputations and their worry that we pro-lifers will use these things against them. They are right to be concerned: we are and will continue to use these things against them. Kermit the Fraud was not a dentist, after all, and Planned Parenthood isn’t selling shoes. These are business that profit from women in crisis. These are businesses for whom death is a commodity to be sold. Abortion lovers should be afraid. The next generation of young people isn’t buying any of their tired old rhetoric. Thank God!
$115
Ninek,
Only thing I’m worried about is the truth. You anti-abortion activists will make stuff up to use against us, much the same way you insist upon dishonestly providing my opinions for me. You think your stance makes you moral and use it justify all sorts of dishonest and immoral behaviour.
The truth is JohnnyC is that abortion = big humans purposely killing little humans. You support abortion. Therefore you support killing humans.
Own it.
Only thing I’m worried about is the truth. You anti-abortion activists will make stuff up to use against us, much the same way you insist upon dishonestly providing my opinions for me. You think your stance makes you moral and use it justify all sorts of dishonest and immoral behaviour.
Johnny C,
How ironic, then, that you run a smear campaign on Lila Rose and Live Action, who are responsible for bringing to light the obvious lies and deception of Planned Parenthood employees through past and future operations.
How ironic, then, that you support the same groups that purport to uphold women’s rights while taking advantage of them in their most vulnerable.
You want to talk about dishonesty and immorality? I’ve never seen such twisting and convolution of facts as done by pro-abortion activists with the scientific facts of life.
“These last 10 days or so, we have seen the abortionists nearly come unglued over Kermit’s crimes and the LiveAction sting. They take no responsibility whatsover. They are more concerned with their reputations and their worry that we pro-lifers will use these things against them.”
Ninek,
I COMPLETELY agree! I blogged about this today…. checkit
http://hastingshome.blogspot.com/2011/01/where-is-outrage.html
No one has killed more human beings, told more lies, twisted more truth, offered more intellectual evasions and spoken more doublespeak than the anti-unborn human rights movement in the last 45 years.
It is the most morally and intellectually bankrupt movement ever.
Jodi Jacobson says that sex traffickeing victims need sexual health services too, because they’re being raped all the time.
She forgets, or maybe doesn’t care, that sex trafficking victims have other, much more urgent, needs. Like the need to escape from, and be protected from, their pimp. A safe place to live, with food to eat. A chance to continue their education, counseling and psychological services to help heal the trauma and heartbreak they’ve experienced, and training to help them earn a living outside of the sex industry. They need general health care that includes treatment for sexually transmitted diseases. If they are pregnant, they need pre-natal care, and help to figure out how the baby will be cared for after birth. Most of all, they need to have their shattered lives rebuilt.
Planned Parenthood offers none of these things. They won’t even help them escape from the pimp if the girls come into the PP clinic. They won’t call the police, or child protective services, or offer any escape help at all. Just force an abortion on them and hand them beck to the sex trafficker.
There need to be rehabilitation centers to help these girls. They don’t need the lack of care PP offers.
JohnnyC said :
Unless you provide specifics you’re lobbing empty shells at us.
Let’s try an exercise – list the 3 most salient pro-life lies (which you claim) and provide tangible, verifiable evidence to refute them, but also list the 3 most salient true points pro-lifers claim and cite their sources.
I’ll do the same for pro-lifers, listing the 3 most important lies abortion-choicers make, as well as their 3 most important truthful claims. I’ll also provide evidence and solid reasoning.
We’ll then compare lists and the evidence.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but opinions are subjective. What you are not entitled to are alterations of facts which are based on solid, tangible evidence and valid deductive reasoning.
Are you game?
The local media will look the other way…that’s true BUT you can bet the American people will notice this ever growing list of inconsistencies and lies that PP perpetuates.
Not to worry — the MSM especially the print media, is becoming more and more obsolete as more of us get our news from the internet. It’s faster and cheaper and more up to date.
Johnny,
If you’re so concerned about truth then maybe you might want to review the following:
A pregnancy in human terms is a woman who conceived through a human egg and human sperm, a human being, who takes about 40 weeks (or so–give or take how you calculate birthdates and estimated due dates) in an environment that is biologically designed to care for a human being unable to survive outside the womb on his or her own.
Pro-choicers/aborts say abortion ends a pregnancy. However, since heartbeat and brain waves have been recorded EARLY on in the pregnancy (which is some people’s way of cacluating whether or not the person is a human being) then abortion ends a life. As a pro-lifer I say said being resulting from concepion is a human being from the moment conception happens (since I don’t see how the result of a human egg and a human sperm can yield ANYTHING but another human being–I know I didn’t carry a kitten in my womb!)
The other thing is many pro-aborts try to say that abortion is perfectly fine and doesn’t hurt people (or those who are hurt are isolated cases).
I don’t know of any surgery (other than perhaps a hystertomy/vascetomy/or something on a woman’s breasts) can lead to more regret or mourning than an abortion.
When I had my surgery to get my 4 wisdom teeth out, I didn’t really mourn them. Sure it felt weird ’cause I had gotten used to them being there, but I didn’t cry about it. I knew from science wisdom teeth were bone, but not living human beings.
Or the time I was a kid and put a popcorn kernel in my ear and had to have surgery to get it out. I did NOT mourn the loss of that popcorn kernel.
I doubt very much people mourn the loss of a cancerous tumor.
But, you know, if women and people aren’t supposed to be hurt by abortion, why are there women stepping up and saying “Abortion hurt me.” Why do some women cry when they talk about it? What about men who supported the woman in their lives getting an abortion–why do some of them mourn the loss of that child if abortion is perfectly 100 percent fine?
Those are some of the lies I have problems with–so if you’re concerned with truth, perhaps you should face the truth of those situations before you start yelling at us pro-lifers about half truths and/or lies.
Stick to what you know, folks. Clearly very few of you know anything about trafficking.